Chat 3.11.10 Numbers: Not the Nightmare You Think They Are
11 Mar 2010 by kimbui, No Comments »
- 2010-03-11T03:14:27Z
- Chronotope (Aram Zucker-Scharff)
- I enjoyed the #wjchat this week, but I really would have liked to see more how-tos, tools, techniques, etc…
- 2010-03-11T03:13:21Z
- UPIU (UPIU.com)
- Interesting #wjchat this week. Full printable archive now up! – http://bit.ly/9PssYC
- 2010-03-11T03:07:23Z
- scott_blanchard (scott blanchard)
- Nifty. Cld lose a lot of time w/that. RT @jeffsonderman: pretty awesome & new one: Google public data explorer http://bit.ly/9qHE9x #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T03:02:44Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @wjchat Thanks for having me. I’ll get back to people after this casino gets power. Oceans14? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T03:02:31Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @hubertallen next week :) There’s always next week. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T03:02:13Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- RT @wjchat: Transcript + highlights + links coming soon. But first a plug for #wjchat Live @ONA10! Vote for a live session here: http://bit.ly/9tbqE7
- 2010-03-11T03:02:08Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- Send us topic ideas and mod nominatiosns and vote for #wjchat Live @ONA10! Vote for a live session here: http://bit.ly/9tbqE7
- 2010-03-11T03:01:55Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- Thanks everybody! Good night! See you next week #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T03:01:23Z
- alixbryan (Alix Bryan)
- Been reading along tonight, but hotel router sucks. In Phoenix, for CAR conference. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T03:01:06Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Transcript + highlights + links coming soon. But first a plug for #wjchat Live @ONA10! Vote for a live session here: http://bit.ly/9tbqE7
- 2010-03-11T03:01:03Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @danielpetty I have strong feeling abt sex offender databases, but I’ll keep it out of this chat. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T03:00:05Z
- hubertallen (Olivia Hubert Allen)
- Cuss! Just realized I missed the #wjchat.
- 2010-03-11T02:59:59Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- …And that’s all folks. Thanks everyone for another great chat! Extra special thanks to special guest @gotoplanb #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:57:46Z
- corones (Mike Corones)
- #wjchat stateoftheusa.org once we launch, hopefully in a couple of weeks…
- 2010-03-11T02:55:45Z
- jaosullivanx (Joseph O’Sullivan)
- Alright, I’ve got to go put this story to bed – it’s been real. Thanks for RTs! @jessicamalnik @KelseyProud @wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:54:43Z
- Chronotope (Aram Zucker-Scharff)
- @gotoPlanB Flowingdata is a great site. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:54:33Z
- jessicamalnik (Jessica Malnik)
- Have to head out early. Thanks everyone for a great chat tonight. Look forward to next week’s chat. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:54:10Z
- johnfcampbell (John Campbell)
- Q9: Colleges. Colleagues who are NOT bragging about being math-impaired. Sports and copy desks. And of course, aliens. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:52:36Z
- andymboyle (Andy Boyle)
- @wjchat And remember, if they say thy can’t get you the data, they’re probably lying/don’t know. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:52:05Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @wjchat flowingdata.com #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:51:43Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- Q9: NICAR: http://j.mp/2u999s #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:51:35Z
- danielpetty (Dan Petty)
- @wjchat Q8: Most frustrating is when data is out of date = errors. Particularly true with criminal databases, like sex offenders #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:50:28Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- time for me to get going. Thank you to everyone for this week’s #wjchat, great discussion and I’ll see you again next week!
- 2010-03-11T02:50:07Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Alright, all.. let’s wrap things up. Last question: Q9: What sites or organizations should journos go to learn more about numbers? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:49:23Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @newswithnumbers Good chatting with you again! #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:49:02Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @Spotus We’ll be ready and waiting for you! #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:48:00Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- gotta head out… loved this week’s chat! catch the rest in the transcript #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:47:53Z
- emilymonacelli (Emily Monacelli)
- Love this. RT @johnfcampbell: Q7 Most powerful tool: ask someone who’s been at it already. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:46:47Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- @johnfcampbell and be ready to offer help if needed! keep up the collaboration! #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:46:36Z
- Chronotope (Aram Zucker-Scharff)
- RT @johnfcampbell: Q7 Most powerful tool: ask someone whos been at it already. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:45:45Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @jrue Maybe i should drive up and get alesson. It’s also what powers Many Eyes, so it’s got to be powerful. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:45:29Z
- Spotus (Spotus)
- #wjchat – sorry I missed this weeks chat. We had a board meeting phone call. But I hope to be involved in future chats! w00t reporters.
- 2010-03-11T02:45:27Z
- johnfcampbell (John Campbell)
- Q7 Most powerful tool: ask someone who’s been at it already. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:44:59Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- Q8 faulty statistics. Reporters who try to make correlations between data sets that don’t match up at all #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:44:16Z
- jeffsonderman (Jeff Sonderman)
- Sunlight Foundation’s Services, Resources and Tools for Mapping Data http://bit.ly/c9OgEy via @ethanklapper #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:43:39Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @gotoPlanB @wjchat Tricked by averages. Head in oven, feet in freezer, on average feel good. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:43:34Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- If someone would teach me how to use this, I think i could do a lot: http://prefuse.org/ #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:43:23Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- @reneejperron yep! #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:42:58Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @wjchat Tricked by averages. Head in oven, feet in freezer, on average feel good. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:42:53Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- RT @jeffsonderman: @wjchat Q8: Difference between percent increase and percentage points increase #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:42:43Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- @ethanklapper thanks for the link #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:42:31Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- Agreed… me and perl and shapelib RT @kimbui: @ethanklapper Where was that when I was building a map? *bookmarking* #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:42:15Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- @kimbui Good question. Found that blog post today too :-P #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:41:15Z
- jeffsonderman (Jeff Sonderman)
- @wjchat Q8: Difference between percent increase and percentage points increase #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:41:12Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @emilymonacelli Where do you want to be? What’s missing? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:41:02Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @ethanklapper Where was that when I was building a map? *bookmarking* #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:40:58Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- Ack! Power and routers out at hotel. Watching on my phone and will get back with links soon. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:40:26Z
- emilymonacelli (Emily Monacelli)
- @kimbui I’m about at the swivel level. Ha. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:39:59Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- This one’s for everyone, especially in re: @kimbui’s last comment: http://bit.ly/c9OgEy #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:38:31Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @ethanklapper It’d be better if i knew some map stuff, but the people who run it are great. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:37:03Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- Swivel is also great, but that’s more beginner leagues. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:35:11Z
- UPIU (UPIU.com)
- @gotoPlanB Tips or sites you’d point students to? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:34:58Z
- johnfcampbell (John Campbell)
- @gotoplanb ‘NodeBox.’ Thanks. Anyone need a Python friend? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:34:48Z
- jeffsonderman (Jeff Sonderman)
- Here’s a pretty awesome and new one: The Google public data explorer http://bit.ly/9qHE9x #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:34:46Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- Just found that today, it’s great! RT @kimbui: http://maker.geocommons.com/ is one of my favorites lately. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:34:39Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @gotoplanb Maybe you come out to the conference and help teach a session or two? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:34:31Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- Dang my typos have been bad tonight. :: shame :: #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:34:30Z
- acnatta (Andre Natta)
- sorry I’m late to #wjchat – need to catch up… how’s it going tonight?
- 2010-03-11T02:34:21Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- @joemurph I’m quickly learning that knowing your HTML and CSS helps with just about everything #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:33:55Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- @reneejperron agreed… and to that end… I am paying attention! #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:33:43Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @webjournalist I’ve been teacing Google Charts for two years. Students have always been enthused. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:33:37Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- http://maker.geocommons.com/ is one of my favorites lately. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:33:32Z
- KelseyProud (Kelsey Proud)
- RT @wjchat: Q7 What tools can you use to break out of the beginnner league of data visualization? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:33:08Z
- joemurph (Joe Murphy)
- @wjchat Q7: Knowing your HTML and CSS will help you avoid making data presentations unnecessarily complex. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:33:04Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- @newswithnumbers tools may not be key, but they sure help with quick visualization. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:33:04Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- If you have don’t mind some code or have a Python friend, check out NodeBox: http://bit.ly/kbVPy #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:32:50Z
- emilymonacelli (Emily Monacelli)
- Catching up on #wjchat discussion. Data viz, woo.
- 2010-03-11T02:32:43Z
- kmcurry (Kevin Curry)
- Q7 @Tableau is powerful viz tool #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:32:22Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Q7 Both @hatchjt and @jrue got me on to Google charts. We’re planning a session at #NAHJ on it. http://bit.ly/9M3cMI #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:31:37Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- Q7 I don’t believe tools are the key here… I think it’s the content/story/compelling viz. Some but not all require top tools #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:31:29Z
- KatieRogers (Katie Rogers)
- Q7 Many Eyes! #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:31:26Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- Q7 we’ve mentioned Many Eyes and the evil empire’s (Google!) many excellent tools for data sharing…beyond basic Excel #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:30:46Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @wjchat I love Google Chart Tools — except the default 3D pie which is of the devil. http://code.google.com/apis/charttools/ #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:30:45Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- Q7 It’s not a question of tools, it’s a question of skills. Keen design sense to be exact. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:30:27Z
- HoltzReport (Andrew Holtz)
- @killbutton Q6. I try to use “one out of ten” type phrase rather than 10% etc. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:30:22Z
- SuziSteffen (Suzi Steffen)
- Q7 I can’t wait to read about those tools, but now must go make dinner, grade, blog, etc. Thanks for inspiring chat! More to learn. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:30:07Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Q7 What tools can you use to break out of the beginnner league of data visualization? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:30:05Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- RT @wjchat: Q7 What tools can you use to break out of the beginnner league of data visualization? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:29:36Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- RT @wjchat: Q7 What tools can you use to break out of the beginnner league of data visualization? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:29:24Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- Eeps, sorry folks, give us a sec. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:29:16Z
- kaitlinflanigan (Kaitlin Flanigan)
- Dang! I was hoping to stick around for a bit longer, but now I have to go to work for @dailyemerald! See y’all next week! #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:29:14Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- @newswithnumbers or watching the end of the #Caps game. sorry, overtime guys. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:29:12Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q7 What tools can you use to break out of the beginnner league of data visualization? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:27:58Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- I guess we’re all waiting? RT @wjchat: Q7 in two minutes… #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:27:18Z
- salvadorduran (Salvador Duran)
- The future of Mobile Media and Communication. Do you believe? #wjchat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FScddkTMlTc&feature=youtu.be
- 2010-03-11T02:27:14Z
- justinNXT (Justin Ellis)
- #Wjchat Q6 Visualization is good, but simplicity in visualization. If you wouldn’t weigh down a lede with data, don’t do it to a chart
- 2010-03-11T02:25:11Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q7 in two minutes… #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:24:12Z
- SuziSteffen (Suzi Steffen)
- ! RT @newswithnumbers: low hanging fruit is where researchers didn’t try to do visualization. Add a viz when reporting others’ work #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:23:33Z
- justinNXT (Justin Ellis)
- @johnfcampbell If you’re not a little scared of numbers, the same as a little skeptical of other information, that’s odd to me #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:22:37Z
- eugeneweekly (eugeneweekly)
- Suzi: Two @eugeneweekly interns taking part in national conversation at #wjchat! So proud of @KaitlinFlanigan & @rachelcoussens!
- 2010-03-11T02:22:09Z
- killbutton (Amira Dughri)
- RT @gotoPlanB Like 42% “plummeting” to 38% in a quarter… If both have 3% error, very likely that true percentage went up. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:21:20Z
- jaosullivanx (Joseph O’Sullivan)
- How reporting affects data, Toyota-style: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_prius_panic #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:21:14Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- @killbutton Glad you “like”? ;-) #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:21:12Z
- jessicamalnik (Jessica Malnik)
- @kaitlinflanigan Great point! It doesn’t help & causes more confusion when the reporter doesn’t understand the data. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:20:57Z
- johnfcampbell (John Campbell)
- @KaitlinFlanigan ‘aliens should be good at math’ — that’s a myth, one that i blame on the metric system #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:20:51Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- I believe the low hanging fruit is where the researchers didn’t try to do a visualization. Add a viz when reporting others work #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:19:51Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- Like 42% “plummeting” to 38% in a quarter (for whatever). If both have 3% error, very likely that true percentage went up. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:19:41Z
- killbutton (Amira Dughri)
- @newswithnumbers Bwahahahahaa. Thank you. So bad, and yet so good. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:19:26Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- @SuziSteffen Exactly. Transparency is key to journalism, especially data-driven journalism! #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:19:26Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- Q6: Also, know your audience and present accordingly: A sports story diff. than a budget story diff. than an education story. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:18:36Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @killbutton More so not reporting unless the numbers are still meaningful with error taken into account. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:18:31Z
- SuziSteffen (Suzi Steffen)
- @ethanklapper Fascinating to see who understands the link economy & who doesn’t. Works for numbers too (& transparent pres of data). #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:18:28Z
- killbutton (Amira Dughri)
- What general statistical principles do you all see M.I.A. in news coverage that take numbers out of context? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:17:34Z
- kaitlinflanigan (Kaitlin Flanigan)
- Q6: It also helps to make sure YOU understand the numbers, otherwise it’s poor reporting! #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:17:30Z
- jessicamalnik (Jessica Malnik)
- Q6: I always try to put numbers into a larger context. Using everyday comparisons and analogies are generally helpful. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:17:26Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- obama mario health care hurdles http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/03/health-care-hurdles.html #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:16:51Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- Q6. Also, always be clear about your sources. Don’t steal/always attribute! And explain the sources too. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:16:47Z
- crit (Christian McDonald)
- #wjchat [off topic, but a reply reminded me]: Caspio users, if you had the company’s ear to bend, what would you request?
- 2010-03-11T02:16:44Z
- killbutton (Amira Dughri)
- @gotoPlanB You talking about reporting error rates? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:16:31Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @kaitlinflanigan Only if they came here in a spaceship…. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:16:09Z
- rachelcoussens (Rachel Coussens)
- RT @wjchat: Q6. How do you put numbers into context for your audience? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:15:58Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- Q6. Don’t publish numbers that aren’t statistically significant in a way that implies significance. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:15:55Z
- johnfcampbell (John Campbell)
- @kimbui that’s an old journalism prof. A newer one might have a math professor for a mom.#wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:15:42Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- RT @SuperDu: Q6 Putting ANYTHING into context for your readers, including numbers, is what makes storytelling/reporting a skill. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:15:30Z
- KelseyProud (Kelsey Proud)
- Q6 First, understand YOUR audience and how they use your content – then organize and present accordingly. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:15:15Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- hour of sleep ABC video http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=9881892 #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:15:12Z
- kaitlinflanigan (Kaitlin Flanigan)
- @kimbui Yeah, I was once told to explain things like I was explaining it to aliens. However, aliens should be good at math… #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:14:56Z
- SuperDu (Robin Luymes)
- Q6 Putting ANYTHING into context for your readers, including numbers, is what makes storytelling/reporting a skill. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:14:54Z
- SuziSteffen (Suzi Steffen)
- Excellent, Kaitlin. Makes total sense! RT @kaitlinflanigan: I try to put it in a way that *I* understand. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:14:51Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- Q6. Look at error rates and not point estimates (like a specific percentage). Spread of error determines significance. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:14:33Z
- alicyp (alicia_cypress)
- interesting #wjchat conversation tonight on data — follow along here: http://bit.ly/dnPeQQ
- 2010-03-11T02:14:27Z
- joemurph (Joe Murphy)
- @wjchat Q6: One angle: Show how numbers change over time, and, hopefully, why. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:14:18Z
- KelseyProud (Kelsey Proud)
- RT @wjchat: Q6. How do you put numbers into context for your audience? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:14:04Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- An old journalism prof told me that I should explain everything like I was explaining it to my mom. SHe’s not so good with numbers. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:13:54Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- Q6 it’s all about the visuals #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:13:21Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- Q6 Good writing and/or good chart chatter! #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:13:06Z
- madshrew (Andrew Stanfill)
- @wjchat @newswithnumbers Speaking of Tufte, he’s been hired by the Obama administration. http://bit.ly/adcjLA #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:12:55Z
- Caspio (Caspio)
- RT @Walldo: Q1 I just crunched a spreadsheet of all the local school salaries and prepping it for visualization with Caspio #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:12:41Z
- kaitlinflanigan (Kaitlin Flanigan)
- I try to put it in a way that *I* understand, b/c despite my data classes, I still struggle sometimes #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:12:16Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- RT @wjchat: Q6. How do you put numbers into context for your audience? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:12:05Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- RT @wjchat: Q6. How do you put numbers into context for your audience? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:11:49Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- Seen great sports-related CAR. Bad pics, but here is a story EA did on Madden use. http://www.joystiq.com/photos/ea-sports-opener/#wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:11:45Z
- killbutton (Amira Dughri)
- @HoltzReport do tell RT @wjchat Q6. How do you put numbers into context for your audience? #wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:11:44Z
- kaitlinflanigan (Kaitlin Flanigan)
- RT @wcjchat: Q6 How do you put numbers into context for your audience? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:11:18Z
- journtoolbox (Mike Reilley)
- RT @jeffsonderman: @wjchat Check out Many Eyes for cool visualizations you can do too http://bit.ly/3KKBS #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:11:10Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- RT @wjchat: Q6. How do you put numbers into context for your audience? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:10:41Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q6. How do you put numbers into context for your audience? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:10:32Z
- killbutton (Amira Dughri)
- @newswithnumbers Health care bill story visualization – Obama as Mario in video game? Whoa, that sounds awful. Link? :) #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:09:59Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- Q5: Tufte still has my all time favs, but they’re very old. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:09:41Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- @KatieRogers loved that one, too bad it made me sad! #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:09:36Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @jeffsonderman You’re getting ahead of us! lol, we’ll be talking tools in a sec. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:09:22Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @newswithnumbers That’s like the 3D pie chart equivalent of motion graphics — just added visual noise. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:09:08Z
- Chronotope (Aram Zucker-Scharff)
- RT @jeffsonderman: @wjchat Heres a great Google tool for mapping data from a Google spreadsheet: http://bit.ly/3wqQVx #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:08:48Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q6 in two minutes… #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:08:28Z
- KatieRogers (Katie Rogers)
- Q5 This is kind of old, but this NYT interactive graphic about unemployment was amazing: http://nyti.ms/3dLjAe #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:08:26Z
- jeffsonderman (Jeff Sonderman)
- @wjchat Here’s a great Google tool for mapping data from a Google spreadsheet: http://bit.ly/3wqQVx #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:07:43Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- Another, again at ABC news… did a Obama as Mario running video game gamut for health care bill. blech! #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:07:21Z
- SuperDu (Robin Luymes)
- But I like the tool very much! RT @kimbui …NYT blew me away with this one: http://nyti.ms/oiNKz #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:06:57Z
- killbutton (Amira Dughri)
- RT @newswithnumbers @gotoPlanB one I’d LIKE to see is the risk/reward chart for that recent change in breast cancer screenings #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:06:51Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- @gotoPlanB ABC-TV ran a story about sleep and heart attacks based on DST change. YET NO GRAPH!!! WTF? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:06:12Z
- SuperDu (Robin Luymes)
- Wonder why all ed’n levels fall below average. Dsn’t make sense! RT @kimbui …NYT blew me away with this one: http://nyti.ms/oiNKz #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:05:58Z
- kaitlinflanigan (Kaitlin Flanigan)
- Q5: Good visualization is pretty hard to come by. I can’t remember unfortunately. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:05:52Z
- killbutton (Amira Dughri)
- If you haven’t, you should check out Chartporn.org …. ooh, so good. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:05:46Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- @gotoPlanB Well… one I’d LIKE to see is the risk/reward chart for that recent change in breast cancer screenings #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:05:11Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @newswithnumbers What’s the worst and why? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:04:48Z
- vanguardiste (Bethany Waggoner)
- @reneejperron Agree to agree. I wasted a good half an hour checking it all out + digging! #wjchat #BBCinternetusemap
- 2010-03-11T02:04:42Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- Fluff, but very funny! RT @gotoPlanB: I also love this viz of Mega Shark vs. Giant Octopus. http://bit.ly/d27nHC #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:04:33Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- Q5 A good visualization would show people data they otherwise wouldn’t bother looking at! #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:04:16Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @newswithnumbers Either way. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:04:14Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- @jeffsonderman love many eyes, but have had problems with it loading data, linking it to google docs and websites. have you? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:04:06Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- Q5: Unfortunately more on my “worst” list spring to mind than best. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:03:55Z
- tchance121 (Tyler Chance)
- Love ManyEyes! RT @jeffsonderman Check out Many Eyes for cool visualizations you can do too http://bit.ly/3KKBS #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:03:49Z
- UPIU (UPIU.com)
- RT @jeffsonderman @wjchat Check out Many Eyes for cool visualizations you can do too http://bit.ly/3KKBS #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:03:46Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- @newswithnumbers Best as in “blew your mind” or “impressively well presented” #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:03:37Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- I also love this viz of Mega Shark vs. Giant Octopus. http://bit.ly/d27nHC #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:03:13Z
- kaitlinflanigan (Kaitlin Flanigan)
- Just now joining #wjchat. J-student at UniOregon. Embarrassed about the football players. Love data journalism. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:03:12Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- @vangaurdiste that was really great, that whole project is really interesting. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:03:10Z
- SuziSteffen (Suzi Steffen)
- Q5: I *LOVE* the interactive graphic at the new @spotus story about Mid-Market in San Francisco: http://wkly.ws/f1 #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:02:56Z
- HoltzReport (Andrew Holtz)
- @killbutton glancing at stream while writing #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:02:34Z
- jeffsonderman (Jeff Sonderman)
- @wjchat Check out Many Eyes for cool visualizations you can do too http://bit.ly/3KKBS #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:02:25Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- Q5: “Best” as in innovative visual or important story (but “just” a graph)? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:02:17Z
- KelseyProud (Kelsey Proud)
- RT @wjchat: Q5. What is the best visualization youve seen recently and why? How did you know it was useful? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:02:12Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- Q5. I don’t put much stock in usefulness of approval ratings, but that viz does what it set out to do. Simple and efficient. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:01:59Z
- vanguardiste (Bethany Waggoner)
- I thought BBC’s Map of Internet use was incredible interesting. So crazy how fast it grew + continues to grow http://bit.ly/bJb27S #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:01:32Z
- killbutton (Amira Dughri)
- @HoltzReport So glad you made it! #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:01:31Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @newswithnumbers @UPIU It’s something some people would have made a boring story out of, but this made it more applicable. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:01:13Z
- SuperDu (Robin Luymes)
- Q5: Best visuals: I think that’s one of the hardest things to do right in journalism. Charts/graphs/pix … it’s an art form. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:01:09Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- Q5. I love the USA Today approval tracker. Shows me history instead of month to month. http://bit.ly/XSxTB #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:00:41Z
- SuziSteffen (Suzi Steffen)
- Craig Silverman at @CJR talks about J-math errors (quotes Scott Maier) in “Sorry, Wrong Number” http://wkly.ws/f3 #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:00:37Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- @kimbui I like that vis… did a story like it myself a few months back (NYTimes was more interactive) #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:00:26Z
- killbutton (Amira Dughri)
- @SuziSteffen I really wish I would have taken a class with @PowerJScott. Love this @CJR article with him http://bit.ly/6T285b #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T02:00:04Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- Q5. WaPo’s POTUS Tracker. Useful b/c it categorizes thousands of different meetings, visually! http://j.mp/rdTT8 #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:59:54Z
- KelseyProud (Kelsey Proud)
- @newswithnumbers No, there’s not a “stats for journs”… but there is a VERY basic stats class – the journs are required to take. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:59:32Z
- HoltzReport (Andrew Holtz)
- Assn. of Health Care Journalists offers workshops and publications w/ on covering med research incl. data http://is.gd/aaHhv #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:58:31Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Q5. What is the best visualization you’ve seen recently and why? How did you know it was useful? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:58:31Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- Not saying this is new, but the NYT blew me away with this unemployment one: http://nyti.ms/oiNKz #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:58:28Z
- johnfcampbell (John Campbell)
- @justinnxt We don’t need journalists scared of numbers, never did. Need talented J’s. Nums, words. Having both used to be a bonus.#wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:58:20Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @Chronotope @reneejperron Oh hell yes… one hopes. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:57:34Z
- SuziSteffen (Suzi Steffen)
- @killbutton At #Oregon J-school, Scott Maier (@PowerJScott, who’s learning Twitter) is the math powerhouse. I ride his coattails. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:56:15Z
- Chronotope (Aram Zucker-Scharff)
- @SuperDu Yes, the more research you do with stats and economics #s, the more experience you get in parsing it. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:56:04Z
- kmcurry (Kevin Curry)
- RT @gotoPlanB: RT @wjchat: Q5. What is the best visualization you’ve seen recently and why? How did you know it was useful? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:56:03Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- RT @wjchat: Q5. What is the best visualization you’ve seen recently and why? How did you know it was useful? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:55:34Z
- jaosullivanx (Joseph O’Sullivan)
- I think dirty data can be a misnomer. A big problem is that data may only portray a slice of a larger issue/story. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:55:28Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- RT @wjchat: Q5. What is the best visualization you’ve seen recently and why? How did you know it was useful? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:55:13Z
- killbutton (Amira Dughri)
- @SuziSteffen Agree. That’s the kind of math class all journos need. Kudos for making your students do math at the J-school. #rare #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:55:04Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- @newswithnumbers Not where I go. Wish there was! #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:55:00Z
- SuperDu (Robin Luymes)
- Confidence in reporting financials and or statistics increases over time. It’s a reason why beat reporting exists! #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:54:59Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- @gotoPlanB one of the best classes I’ve taken in the past year was a CAR class. made me a CAR enthusiast. more programs need this #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:54:52Z
- SuziSteffen (Suzi Steffen)
- @gotoPlanB Yes, we could also use business classes for journalists, etc. Though if U R reporting on pipe fitters’ union … ;) #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:54:50Z
- jeffsonderman (Jeff Sonderman)
- Journalists who work with data should check out #wjchat tonight.
- 2010-03-11T01:54:32Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- That was “with” -> “wish”. Sorry for my error :) #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:54:30Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- is there a stats for Journs in school these days? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:54:26Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @newswithnumbers Is that like practice, practice, practice? I agree. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:54:23Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q5. What is the best visualization you’ve seen recently and why? How did you know it was useful? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:54:22Z
- tchance121 (Tyler Chance)
- RT @reneejperron: @gotoPlanB overcome insecurities w/ data the same way u overcome bad grammar: check it, again & again & practice #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:54:20Z
- justinNXT (Justin Ellis)
- Q4I’d say the rise of database loving, CAR-addicts is a boon to journalists scared of numbers. Newsrooms need both #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:54:17Z
- Chronotope (Aram Zucker-Scharff)
- @webjournalist Though surely a statistician might help in spotting that, right? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:54:11Z
- SuziSteffen (Suzi Steffen)
- RT @webjournalist: Let’s also admit that investigative process has a lot of variables. Getting, inputting, querying, analyzing data. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:54:10Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- @webjournalist wouldn’t a statistician be able to spot dirty data? In a perfect world of course. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:54:04Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- @vanguardiste My stats prof has put journalism in quotes before. Quite nice, don’t you think? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:54:04Z
- johnfcampbell (John Campbell)
- @gotoplanb No statistician on staff but some staffers know to find me (BA, Math) Don’t neglect the Dark Side at yr paper.#wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:53:59Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- re overcome insecurities… don’t check common sense at the door. Too many people “give up” when the numbers come out #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:53:26Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @SuziSteffen I so with there were journo-specific stats classes. Manufacturing tolerances in pipe diameter don’t help us. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:53:11Z
- vanguardiste (Bethany Waggoner)
- @SuziSteffen Totally stand by my stats class in college. Saved my life in J-School. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:52:42Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @gotoplanb Having a statistician is great, but pointless if you have dirty data. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:52:25Z
- jessicamalnik (Jessica Malnik)
- RT @reneejperron: @gotoPlanB u overcome insecurities w/ data the same way u overcome bad grammar: check it, again & again & practice #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:52:12Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @gotoplanb Let’s also admit that our investigative process has a lot of variables. Getting, inputting, querying, analyzing the data. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:52:01Z
- Chronotope (Aram Zucker-Scharff)
- RT @vanguardiste Definitely. Any error is an issue. For me data errors are easier to miss in spreadsheet. There is no spellcheck ;-) #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:51:48Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q5 in two minutes… #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:51:40Z
- SuziSteffen (Suzi Steffen)
- .@killbutton I think a statistics class is a good idea too, not just a math class. I make my students in Reporting 1 do math. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:51:37Z
- jessicamalnik (Jessica Malnik)
- @ethanklapper Agreed. I’m not great at math either so I’m always rechecking my numbers/data. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:51:36Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @reneejperron You overcome insecurities with data the same way you overcome bad grammar: check it, again and again. and practice #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:51:30Z
- killbutton (Amira Dughri)
- http://www.slideshare.net/cubreporters/math-4-journalists-presentation :) #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:51:04Z
- vanguardiste (Bethany Waggoner)
- @newswithnumbers Definitely. Any error is an issue. For me data errors are easier to miss in spreadsheet. There is no spellcheck ;-) #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:50:58Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- @webjournalist volume volume volume #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:50:40Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- @gotoPlanB you overcome insecurities with data the same way you overcome bad grammar: check it, again and again. and practice #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:50:38Z
- justinNXT (Justin Ellis)
- Double check, triple check and multiple eyes. And I’m still nervous @gotoPlanB How do you overcome insecurities regarding numbers? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:50:25Z
- SuperDu (Robin Luymes)
- Q4 Hard part re data is it often is selectively shared to support a point; full results might be less clear. Leads to uncertainty. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:50:20Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @webjournalist So less math suckage would make you feel better? :) #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:50:11Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- You just do it, and fell/respect the weight of responsibility. RT @gotoplanb: How do you overcome insecurities regarding numbers? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:50:01Z
- KelseyProud (Kelsey Proud)
- Q4 Feel a little insecure re: data. Telling stories with words = natural for me. But try my best to do EACH story right. Data or no. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:49:56Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @gotoPlanB I am anal about checking numbers. Check, re-check, re-re-check, have other people check. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:49:48Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @webjournalist Anyone have a statistician on staff for editing purposes? Should you? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:49:26Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @gotoplanb Ah… but, for the record, I also suck at math as well. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:49:21Z
- vanguardiste (Bethany Waggoner)
- Touché RT @webjournalist: Q4 You should always feel a little insecure when you do reporting. There’s a lot of responsibility #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:49:21Z
- killbutton (Amira Dughri)
- Best piece of advice? Take a math class. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:49:20Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- report w/o realizing or checking that it was a mistake I mean #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:48:53Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- Q4 At the same time, data can make me nervous. One small math error and … you’ve got problems. Major cx to run! #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:48:46Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- How do you overcome insecurities regarding numbers? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:48:45Z
- kmcurry (Kevin Curry)
- @jeffsonderman every chart should come w/ a URL to the source data #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:48:35Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @gotoPlanB Not the numbers, but if you are inputting the data, there is not one fact checking your work. It’s reporting w/o a net. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:48:28Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- Q4… is data different? If reporters report a mistake someone famous says… shouldn’t that be an issue too? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:48:25Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @webjournalist Q4 You should always feel a little insecure when you do reporting. There is a lot of responsibility #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:47:35Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @reneejperron Q4: as major nerd, data is actually where I feel comfortable. If used correctly, it gives your reporting authority #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:47:17Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- RT @reneejperron: data is actually where I feel more comfortable. If used correctly, it gives your reporting authority #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:47:11Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @webjournalist What makes you feel more insecure about numbers? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:47:08Z
- SuziSteffen (Suzi Steffen)
- @webjournalist I like “You should always feel a little insecure when you do reporting.” Excellent point. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:46:33Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- Q4: as a major nerd, data is actually where I feel more comfortable. If used correctly, it gives your reporting authority #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:46:27Z
- kmcurry (Kevin Curry)
- RT @jeffsonderman: @wjchat Transparency is important in reporting on data. Do your analysis, but publish the data for all to verify as well #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:46:16Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Q4 You should always feel a little insecure when you do reporting. There is a lot of responsibility… but I agree, data more so. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:46:14Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- Good point. RT @johnfcampbell: @ethanklapper ‘…have database editors’ don’t be sure in lean times. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:46:09Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @newswithnumbers I’d be @DrKimBui if it weren’t for O Chem #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:45:58Z
- organicmenu (Alec Crawford)
- RT @newswithnumbers @kimbui LMAO Organic Chem! #wjchat http://j.mp/bkdzr6
- 2010-03-11T01:45:56Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @kimbui I used to joke all that time that math is why i became a journalist. But really, it was organic chemistry. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:45:32Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- RT @wjchat: Q4. Do you ever feel insecure about your ability to report data? Who do you go to for help? Best piece of advice they’ve given you? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:45:19Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- @kimbui LMAO Organic Chem! #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:45:18Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- RT @kimbui: I used to joke all that time that math is why i became a journalist. But really, it was organic chemistry. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:45:14Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @ethanklapper Q4 YES. Data is intimidating. Like I said before, the sources are best to clear questions up. Mentors help too #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:44:55Z
- jeffsonderman (Jeff Sonderman)
- @wjchat Transparency is important in reporting on data. Do your analysis, but publish the data for all to verify as well #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:44:55Z
- KelseyProud (Kelsey Proud)
- RT @wjchat: Q4. Do you ever feel insecure about your ability to report data? Who do you go to for help? Best piece of advice? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:44:22Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- I used to joke all that time that math is why i became a journalist. But really, it was organic chemistry. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:44:18Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- @ethanklapper haha true. or they can give you ideas for sources, stories. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:44:07Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- Q4: I think this is a process… you report, someone finds mistake, you fix, it gets better. Bad if you don’t report at all. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:43:48Z
- jaosullivanx (Joseph O’Sullivan)
- @gotoPlanB But you yourself can verify through using other angles, perspectives, data, etc. #wjchat Make sure a story is rounded.
- 2010-03-11T01:43:41Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- RT @wjchat: Q4. Do you feel insecure about ability to report data? Who do you go to for help? Best piece of advice they’ve given? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:43:41Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- Q4 YES. Data is intimidating. Like I said before, the sources are best to clear questions up. Mentors help too #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:43:26Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Q4. Ever feel insecure about your ability to report data? Who do you go to for help? Best piece of advice given to you? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:42:41Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q4. Do you ever feel insecure about your ability to report data? Who do you go to for help? Best piece of advice they’ve given you? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:42:26Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- @reneejperron It does give you access to people (Profs) who like to leak sometimes. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:42:26Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- reading a book… News & Numbers… http://bit.ly/91Nc7T #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:42:22Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @justinNXT #wjchat Q3 Getting data is biggest hurdle, but cleaning it up so it’s useful is just as important. It can blow a whole project
- 2010-03-11T01:42:11Z
- jaosullivanx (Joseph O’Sullivan)
- @gotoPlanB What @kelseyproud said. ;) Check your numbers, check your source, take into account source’s biases/proclivities #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:42:06Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- RT @Chronotope: @ethanklapper Yes, we are lucky at GMU, since it is a public university we can FOIA it. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:41:50Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- @Chronotope Yup. No such luck at AU :-(. Best data comes from annual reports sadly. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:41:16Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- @ethanklapper I’ve actually found that being a student makes life a little bit easier in some ways. more access to some records #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:40:59Z
- Chronotope (Aram Zucker-Scharff)
- @ethanklapper Yes, we are lucky at GMU, since it is a public university we can FOIA it. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:40:42Z
- justinNXT (Justin Ellis)
- #wjchat Q3 Getting data is the biggest hurdle, but cleaning it up so that’s of any use is just as important. It can blow a whole project
- 2010-03-11T01:40:29Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- I’m very wary of “verifying” by using myself as an instrument. Like a thermometer in the ocean does not describe the average temp. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:39:46Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q4 in two minutes… #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:39:34Z
- KelseyProud (Kelsey Proud)
- @jeffsonderman Woot @adrianholovaty ;) #Mizzou #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:39:27Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- Q3 For a college journalist, at a private college, getting your hands on the data in the first place is hard. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:39:09Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- RT @KelseyProud: RT @jaosullivanx: Q3: Verify the numbers, but also get your boots on the ground. Do they fit in with what you see in the community? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:39:06Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @jaosullivanx Sorry. That was meant for you :) How do you verify? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:38:58Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Q3 We “corrected” it by inputing the data and proving it was dirty. Then repeat about 3 or 4 more times. Sorry, I’m still bruised. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:38:44Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- @Chronotope was doing a story on parking tickets, contacted several different city authorities to get solid numbers. Cool data #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:38:39Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @KelseyProud How do you verify? What does that mean to you? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:38:35Z
- jessicamalnik (Jessica Malnik)
- RT @jaosullivanx: Q3: Verify the numbers, but also get your boots on the ground. Do they fit in with what you see in the community? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:38:30Z
- Krochmal (Mo Krochmal)
- RT @KelseyProud: Q3 Re: verification – even with numbers, especially with numbers, must always ask “HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT?” (thx @uberscholar) #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:38:10Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @jaosullivanx Q3: Verify the numbers, but also get your boots on the ground. Do they fit in with what you see in the community? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:38:10Z
- joemurph (Joe Murphy)
- @wjchat Dirty, inconsistent data. There can be a big difference in location btw, say, 12th Street and 12th Avenue. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:37:51Z
- KelseyProud (Kelsey Proud)
- RT @jaosullivanx: Q3: Verify the numbers, but also get your boots on the ground. Do they fit in with what you see in the community? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:37:36Z
- kmcurry (Kevin Curry)
- Q3 data embedded in PDF, charts as images, spreadsheets with quirky formatting #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:37:27Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @madshrew @wjchat The data holders, gov. have the info, but fight sharing it for various reasions. I asked small 1st, worked. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:37:19Z
- jeffsonderman (Jeff Sonderman)
- @wjchat Data can *be* news sometimes, not just lead to news. See http://everyblock.com #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:37:18Z
- Chronotope (Aram Zucker-Scharff)
- @reneejperron What sort of hoops did you face? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:37:13Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- Q3 I always folo with the sources of data. They clear up 99 percent of my questions. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:37:01Z
- johnfcampbell (John Campbell)
- Q3: PDFs … grrrr. Governments can call ‘em electronic …. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:37:00Z
- jaosullivanx (Joseph O’Sullivan)
- Q3: Verify the numbers, but also get your boots on the ground. Do they fit in with what you see in the community? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:36:58Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Q3 Well, sorry but, it was the reporter thinking they had clean data to query when it wasn’t. And trying to convince them to fix. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:36:57Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- Oh, the sources, some people just dont want to let go of their data. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:36:47Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- Q3: cluttered charts… I do not put in error bars… too cluttering… prefer natural spread of data to show that #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:36:45Z
- KelseyProud (Kelsey Proud)
- Q3 Re: verification – even with numbers, especially with numbers, must always ask “HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT?” (thx @uberscholar) #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:36:44Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Q3 Well, sorry but, it was the report thinking they had clean data to query when it wasn’t. And trying to convince them to fix. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:36:40Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- Q3. What about in regards to studies, surveys, etc. and not big data sets? What are your challenges? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:36:30Z
- SuziSteffen (Suzi Steffen)
- @mattwaite I’m not sure I understand what you mean. Example of “no shit, Sherlock” story? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:36:12Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- Q3 biggest obstacle probably has been jumping through hoops to get data from city authorities. So many phone calls…#wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:36:05Z
- killbutton (Amira Dughri)
- Finding the truth when reporting stories based on studies funded by organizations that benefit from data saying one thing or another #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:35:43Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Q3 What data obstacles have you faced and how did you overcome them? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:35:33Z
- madshrew (Andrew Stanfill)
- @wjchat The data holders, gov. that have the information, but fight sharing it for various reasions. I asked smaller first, worked. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:35:18Z
- jaosullivanx (Joseph O’Sullivan)
- RT @mattwaite: Getting data before you have a story leads to a lot of “no shit, Sherlock” journalism. The story is always the thing. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:35:12Z
- KelseyProud (Kelsey Proud)
- RT @mattwaite: Getting data before you have a story leads to a lot of “no shit, Sherlock” journalism. The story is always the thing. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:35:04Z
- tchance121 (Tyler Chance)
- RT @salvadorduran Q3 is always an issue of verification. Why should I believe the source. Is the source impartial? Show me proof. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:34:53Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- RT @mattwaite: Getting data before you have a story leads to a lot of “no shit, Sherlock” journalism. The story is always the thing. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:34:41Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- Q3 With proper planning — and knowing what you have, very few obstacles do exist. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:34:14Z
- KelseyProud (Kelsey Proud)
- Q3 My “fave” so far: When the same study in consecutive years used different presentation methods – made very hard to compare. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:34:12Z
- salvadorduran (Salvador Duran)
- Q3 is always an issue of verification. Why should I believe the source. Is the source impartial? Show me proof. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:34:11Z
- mattwaite (Matt Waite)
- Getting data before you have a story leads to a lot of “no shit, Sherlock” journalism. The story is always the thing. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:33:27Z
- kmcurry (Kevin Curry)
- Q2 There are def. questions to be answered in data http://kevincurry.blogspot.com/2010/01/journalism-data-visualization_30.html #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:33:12Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- RT @wjchat: Q3 What data obstacles have you faced and how did you overcome them? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:33:06Z
- justinNXT (Justin Ellis)
- @KelseyProud raises a good point. If looking at numbers, how to determine if data is statistically significant or just a change? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:32:42Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- RT @wjchat: Q3 What data obstacles have you faced and how did you overcome them? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:32:40Z
- KelseyProud (Kelsey Proud)
- RT @wjchat: Q3 What data obstacles have you faced and how did you overcome them? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:32:31Z
- SuziSteffen (Suzi Steffen)
- Hey all, Suzi Steffen, performing/visual arts editor at @EugeneWeekly & J-school adjunct @UOSOJC, checking in. Looking fwd to Q3. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:32:13Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q3 What data obstacles have you faced and how did you overcome them? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:32:12Z
- salvadorduran (Salvador Duran)
- RT @newswithnumbers: @justinNXT fair enough… for me 90% is story first then see if data supports. 10% found new story while looking at data. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:31:29Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- @justinNXT fair enough… for me 90% is story first then see if data supports. 10% found new story while looking at data. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:30:47Z
- johnfcampbell (John Campbell)
- #wjchat It’s hard to imagine these spared wired days, but some databases were populated (generated) with old fashioned shoe-leather facts.
- 2010-03-11T01:30:32Z
- salvadorduran (Salvador Duran)
- @KelseyProud You are most accurate Kelsey. So important–I retweeted your response! #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:30:25Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @gotoPlanB Simplistically, you can find some data set and dig for a story or have a story and then dig for a data set. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:30:22Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @KelseyProud Love how you said “best” and not “correct”. There always can be better numbers. Use the best, acknowledge limitations. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:29:57Z
- justinNXT (Justin Ellis)
- @newswithnumbers Right but the question was data from stories, or stories from data. I’d say data supports or can drive stories #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:29:54Z
- salvadorduran (Salvador Duran)
- RT @KelseyProud: Q2 As with using data at all, have to make sure there IS a story if given numbers to start. It’s news judgment with a caveat. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:29:37Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q3 in two minutes… #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:29:35Z
- SuziSteffen (Suzi Steffen)
- Aaaah! It’s #wjchat. Going to TweetChat right now … and warning, people: I might be tweeting a fair amount for that (or I might not).
- 2010-03-11T01:29:33Z
- KelseyProud (Kelsey Proud)
- @gotoplanb Good ? about figuring out what the “right” numbers are. For me, it’s really about finding the BEST and most relevant data #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:29:19Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @gotoPlanB Q2. It’s similar to asking if you use data in a statistical model of if you mine a model from the data. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:29:12Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- That was my answer too, but opted not to send it. Great minds. RT @KelseyProud: Q2 Yes. :) #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:29:01Z
- salvadorduran (Salvador Duran)
- This is from #census -When all of us are counted, our cities N counties will get our due for roads, bridges and emergency services. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:28:43Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- @gotoPlanB right, it all depends on what will help your story #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:28:40Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- Simplistically, you can find some data set and dig for a story or have a story and then dig for a data set. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:28:12Z
- vanguardiste (Bethany Waggoner)
- Q2 Depends. Event based stories have that as conception . But some of the most meaningful stories are found deep in the numbers. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:27:35Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- @justinNXT @gotoPlanB I’d say that you don’t necessarily generate data from a story, but mine for data relevant to an existing story #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:27:29Z
- jaosullivanx (Joseph O’Sullivan)
- And often the flipside for community news RT @salvadorduran When covering national news, stories are often generated from numbers. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:27:20Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @newswithnumbers Bingo. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:26:41Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- @justinNXT don’t GENERATE data from stories but stories suggest data to examine #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:25:49Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @reneejperron And both approaches can be OK depending on the circumstances. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:25:38Z
- salvadorduran (Salvador Duran)
- When covering national news, for the most part, stories are generated from numbers, period. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:25:37Z
- justinNXT (Justin Ellis)
- @gotoPlanB I’d be interested how someone generates data from stories? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:25:31Z
- KelseyProud (Kelsey Proud)
- Q2 As with using data at all, have to make sure there IS a story if given numbers to start. It’s news judgment with a caveat. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:24:57Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- Q2 I’ve sometimes guessed numbers would take story in one direction only to be wrong when xaming data #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:24:49Z
- tchance121 (Tyler Chance)
- #wjchat Q2: Both. The two have to interact with each other and push each other.
- 2010-03-11T01:24:39Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- Q2. It’s similar to asking if you use data in a statistical model of if you mine a model from the data. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:24:33Z
- vanguardiste (Bethany Waggoner)
- @10000words Glad to see we didn’t scare you off the other week! #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:24:25Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- Q2: I’ve done both, but it depends on the story and the data. Which comes first, the chicken or the egg? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:24:19Z
- killbutton (Amira Dughri)
- @newswithnumbers I think it does help people understand full picture, but not change their minds. Our prefrontal cortex is feeble. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:24:04Z
- jessicamalnik (Jessica Malnik)
- @gotoPlanB @10000words Great point. It’s important to remember that stats can be very deceiving. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:23:55Z
- UPIU (UPIU.com)
- Q2: A mix, you have to do research to craft a story, but you often have some sense of the story you are aiming for before you start #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:23:55Z
- jaosullivanx (Joseph O’Sullivan)
- Neither words nor statistics lie. It is people that arrange them for their own benefit. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:23:52Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- Newsrooms employ database editors to come up with stories from the data… #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:23:47Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- If they do that they can argue the stats RT @gotoPlanB: @10000words I think that should be that people tell lies with statistics. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:23:34Z
- johnfcampbell (John Campbell)
- #wjchat sometimes it’s circular, especially in the case of an annual report. What happened last year, what’sdifferent?
- 2010-03-11T01:23:31Z
- KelseyProud (Kelsey Proud)
- Q2 Yes. :) #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:23:19Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @10000words: @tchance121 Dont forget there are “lies, damn lies, and statistics.” #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:23:06Z
- salvadorduran (Salvador Duran)
- Especially on slow news days. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:23:02Z
- tchance121 (Tyler Chance)
- @gotoPlanB @10000words agreed. depends on who you are getting it from. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:22:54Z
- vanguardiste (Bethany Waggoner)
- Awesomesauce quote! 1 of my faves! RT @10000words @tchance121 Don’t forget there are “lies, damn lies, and statistics.” #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:22:43Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- Q2: I’m always thinking. Usually the story comes from the numbers, but it’s not limited to that. CAR anyone? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:22:37Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- @10000words Not only are there lies, but mistakes in stats #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:22:32Z
- salvadorduran (Salvador Duran)
- @wjchat Mainly you generate stories from data #wjchat.
- 2010-03-11T01:22:30Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- RT @wjchat: Q2. Do you generate data from stories or stories from data? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:22:23Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @10000words I think that should be that people tell lies with statistics. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:22:12Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- yea, but words are the original liars. RT @10000words: @tchance121 Dont forget there are “lies, damn lies, and statistics.” #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:22:07Z
- jaosullivanx (Joseph O’Sullivan)
- Q2: Both. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:22:06Z
- killbutton (Amira Dughri)
- @tchance121 I disagree. Numbers can be biased. They didn’t just appear. People came up with them. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:21:57Z
- KelseyProud (Kelsey Proud)
- RT @wjchat: Q2. Do you generate data from stories or stories from data? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:21:49Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Q2. Do you generate data from stories or stories from data? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:21:32Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @tchance121 I assume all numbers are biased. I have to be convinced otherwise. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:21:08Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q2. Do you generate data from stories or stories from data? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:21:06Z
- 10000words (Mark S. Luckie)
- @tchance121 Don’t forget there are “lies, damn lies, and statistics.” #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:20:39Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- @KelseyProud: you’re right, has to be the right data. so much is out there, it’s important to make it relevant. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:20:35Z
- salvadorduran (Salvador Duran)
- Always double check data, because it may be available, doesn’t mean it’s accurate. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:20:05Z
- vanguardiste (Bethany Waggoner)
- RT @gotoPlanB @newswithnumbers Totally. Just b/c data has a relationship doesn’t mean it’s useful. See ONN http://onion.com/cZqYWp #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:20:00Z
- killbutton (Amira Dughri)
- Everything I write about is based on data. Sometimes I dig it up. Sometimes I try to make it pretty. Mostly, I try to understand it. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:19:49Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- does data and transparency help prevent biased readers from getting wrong impression? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:19:48Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @KelseyProud How do you know what is the “right” data for a story? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:19:31Z
- tchance121 (Tyler Chance)
- I agree. Numbers are are unbiased facts to help tell story. RT @KelseyProud “There’s always a set of numbers behind the story.” #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:19:31Z
- lengcaloh (Leng Caloh)
- Wd lov to join #wjchat on data in reporting, but am wiped out after #smw2010. B sure 2 check out data.seattle.gov & socrata.com for gov data
- 2010-03-11T01:19:23Z
- jaosullivanx (Joseph O’Sullivan)
- Q1: Catching discrepancies between data and the words of politicians/bureaucrats is both delightful and fruitful journalism. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:19:18Z
- kmcurry (Kevin Curry)
- Q1 @abycoffe from @PilotNews made this http://labs.hamptonroads.com/api/crime so I can do this: http://bit.ly/8WXRld #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:19:06Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q2 in two minutes… #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:18:56Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @newswithnumbers Totally. Just because the data has a relationship doesn’t mean it’s useful. See the ONN http://onion.com/cZqYWp #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:18:48Z
- KelseyProud (Kelsey Proud)
- Q1 As with multimedia “doing” data “just to do it” is not so great. The key is using data, and the RIGHT data for each story. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:18:45Z
- salvadorduran (Salvador Duran)
- RT @webjournalist: RT @wjchat: Welcome welcome! Let’s get this party started. Q1. What role does data play in your job? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:18:33Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- there’s no excuse not to use data to augment almost every story nowadays. It’s so readily available (and fun to use!) #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:18:15Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @ tchance121 #wjchat Q1 Data plays big role. Esp. in small community papers. Transparency goes a long way here.
- 2010-03-11T01:18:08Z
- salvadorduran (Salvador Duran)
- @gotoPlanB Exactly. Meaning that there are “unregistered” sex offenders. Some not prosecuted etc. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:17:48Z
- KelseyProud (Kelsey Proud)
- @AlexParker Hey Alex! Welcome! #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:17:35Z
- KelseyProud (Kelsey Proud)
- Q1 I think data plays a role in every story, whether it’s directly related or not. There’s always a set of numbers behind the story. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:17:09Z
- vanguardiste (Bethany Waggoner)
- Q1 It’s the backbone. Every story is supported by data. Whether an event is newsworthy itself or the data is newsworthy—you need it. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:16:58Z
- salvadorduran (Salvador Duran)
- Sometimes news editor will drop the story if the data is “weak” meaning, not of relevance to impact an audience. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:16:53Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- @gotoPlanB Yea, but as an extrem counter xmple that netflix who’s renting what was cool, but in the end didn’t “matter” fluff piece #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:16:51Z
- AlexParker (AlexParker)
- Hi folks…I’m a reporter with the Chicago Current. Checking out #wjchat for the first time.
- 2010-03-11T01:16:40Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @salvadorduran Love that you put it in quotes. That tells me that registered can mean different things. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:16:20Z
- joemurph (Joe Murphy)
- @wjchat Q1: I play with and publish online datasets regularly. Sometimes it’s just stats, sometimes it’s more. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:15:57Z
- tchance121 (Tyler Chance)
- #wjchat Q1 Data plays a big role. Esp. in small community papers. Transparency goes a long way here. Esp. with school budget cuts. big help.
- 2010-03-11T01:15:10Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @newswithnumbers I can’t get myself to visualize until I have an idea of the meaning. Viz is the embodiment of data structure. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:15:09Z
- salvadorduran (Salvador Duran)
- @gotoPlanB Today for ex. I had to file a story on sex offenders in CA. I needed CA # on how many “registered” sex offenders. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:14:35Z
- tchance121 (Tyler Chance)
- #wjchat Tyler Chance. Copy Editor/Page Designer/Social Media guy for Lafayette Journal & Courier.
- 2010-03-11T01:14:24Z
- jeffsonderman (Jeff Sonderman)
- @wjchat Hi everyone. I’m a web and print editor. Details at http://jeffsonderman.com let’s #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:14:23Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- Ha… no… why matters comes first. RT @killbutton: @newswithnumbers in that order? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:14:00Z
- jessicamalnik (Jessica Malnik)
- RT @gotoPlanB: Q1. Numbers play bigger role than most realize. Every study and budget meeting is framed based on numbers. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:13:52Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- AGREED RT @gotoPlanB: Q1. Numbers play bigger role than most realize. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:13:38Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @gotoPlanB Q1. Numbers play bigger role than most realize. Every study and budget meeting is framed based on numbers. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:13:32Z
- killbutton (Amira Dughri)
- @newswithnumbers in that order? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:13:31Z
- Chronotope (Aram Zucker-Scharff)
- Data is always useful, especially good for enriching content and framing stories. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:12:59Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- Q1. Numbers play bigger role than most realize. Every study and budget meeting is framed based on numbers. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:12:42Z
- jordanfifer (Jordan Fifer)
- This time I’m going to miss the #wjchat for real. (Had thought it was yesterday.) Bummer, part 2. Looking forward to the transcript.
- 2010-03-11T01:12:21Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- Q1: learning CAR was one of my favorite parts of our grad program. Combing data is a great way to come up with stories #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:12:16Z
- danielpetty (Dan Petty)
- @wjchat I’m Dan Petty, online and multimedia producer @denverpost. Work with @joemurph. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:12:07Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Note to followers: I’m briefly participating in #wjchat … you’ve been warned… and invited to join us.
- 2010-03-11T01:12:00Z
- salvadorduran (Salvador Duran)
- Data is so important that some stories never make air unless data is accurate and precise. #wjchat.
- 2010-03-11T01:11:55Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- Q1 – 3 steps for me… a) data, b) how to picture it, c) why it’s meaningful #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:11:45Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @salvadorduran How so? Are you gathering, analyzing, visualizing, etc.? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:11:43Z
- Walldo (Brandon Wall)
- Q1 I just crunched a spreadsheet of all the local school salaries and prepping it for visualization with Caspio #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:11:42Z
- marshallk (Marshall Kirkpatrick)
- #wjchat the role of data in my job is primarily to unearth unknown news sources for lead generation
- 2010-03-11T01:11:25Z
- johnfcampbell (John Campbell)
- #wjchat inherited annual data dive from reporters who have gone on to bigger and better things.
- 2010-03-11T01:11:25Z
- mmmbutters (Michelle Butterfield)
- Hi #wjchat, I’m an online editor for the @calgaryherald all the way up north in Alberta…just listening in on the chat while I work :)
- 2010-03-11T01:11:22Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Welcome welcome! Let’s get this party started. Q1. What role does data play in your job? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:11:12Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- Q1 I wish it could play a bigger role. But I’ve done some CAR here and there, most recently for “Frontline.” #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:11:08Z
- RobinJP (Robin Phillips)
- Wow. Everyone in my stream is at #wjchat Checking in from a backup on I 10. Go mobile.
- 2010-03-11T01:10:55Z
- jessicamalnik (Jessica Malnik)
- @gritz99 Hi- great to see another Gator participating in this chat. -chomp, chomp. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:10:21Z
- salvadorduran (Salvador Duran)
- Hi I’m Salvador Duran, Univision Network reporter, USC grad student. Data plays a major part of my daily work in my newsroom #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:10:06Z
- crholland (Christian Holland)
- RT @wjchat: Welcome welcome! Let’s get this party started. Q1. What role does data play in your job? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:10:02Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- RT @wjchat: Welcome welcome! Let’s get this party started. Q1. What role does data play in your job? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:09:51Z
- joemurph (Joe Murphy)
- @wjchat Hi all, I’m Joe Murphy, I do web development in the newsroom at @DenverPost. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:09:40Z
- gritz99 (Gary Ritzenthaler)
- Greetings to all #wjchat folks. I am a Ph.D. student in communications at U. of Florida.
- 2010-03-11T01:09:37Z
- KelseyProud (Kelsey Proud)
- Hi all! Kelsey Proud, convergence journalism senior at U of Missouri, graduating in May, job hunting, previous wjchat moderator. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:09:35Z
- jessicamalnik (Jessica Malnik)
- To all my followers- please excuse a massive amount of tweets for the next hour or so. I’ll be participating in #wjchat! #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:09:17Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @madshrew I’m a statistics guy. I don’t a bet I can’t win. I just watch people flush money. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:08:59Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Welcome welcome! Let’s get this party started. Q1. What role does data play in your job? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:08:13Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- Good place for a statistican RT @gotoPlanB: @webjournalist Im at a casino in Biloxi. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:08:12Z
- KelseyProud (Kelsey Proud)
- I’ll be watching two Journ related chats tonight. Please join us or excuse all of the tweets! #j2020 #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:08:08Z
- marshallk (Marshall Kirkpatrick)
- @marshallk of ReadWriteWeb checking in to #wjchat looking forward to trying to participate!
- 2010-03-11T01:08:08Z
- jessicamalnik (Jessica Malnik)
- @gotoPlanB Go Gators! #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:08:03Z
- madshrew (Andrew Stanfill)
- @gotoPlanB That’s right! Are you moderating this while playing the numbers at a blackjack table? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:07:36Z
- johnfcampbell (John Campbell)
- #wjchat whoami: Copy editor, math degree; body of work in Fortran, Perl other sprache you’ve probably never heard of.
- 2010-03-11T01:07:28Z
- reneejperron (Renee Perron)
- Hi everyone. Renee Perron here, freelance blogger, media graduate student and web enthusiast from VA. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:07:19Z
- killbutton (Amira Dughri)
- Hey-o. I work the health beat for start-up @mditvorg … looking to learn more on digging up & reporting data on the internets #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:07:03Z
- byersalex (Alex Byers)
- Gonna try to keep up with #wjchat tonight. I’m Alex Byers, eic of @gwhatchet and soon-to-be-professional web communicator (I hope?)
- 2010-03-11T01:06:57Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @jessicamalnik chomp chomp #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:06:56Z
- vanguardiste (Bethany Waggoner)
- @webjournalist NOLA huh? #jealous #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:06:42Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- @webjournalist I’m at a casino in Biloxi. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:06:34Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- Hey guys, Kim Bui freelance web producer in LA. Finishing up a project, so I’ll likely be quiet tonight. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:06:23Z
- justinNXT (Justin Ellis)
- Heyo! It’s #wjchat time. My stream may get crowded with journo talk the next hour. Sorry in advance folks.
- 2010-03-11T01:06:19Z
- jessicamalnik (Jessica Malnik)
- Hey everyone! I’m Jessica and I’m a multimedia/web journo and currently living in Gainesville, Fla. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:06:02Z
- aschweig (adam schweigert)
- there are some data-journalism #rockstars over in #wjchat right now, if you’re interested in that stuff, you should join in #pubmedia
- 2010-03-11T01:06:02Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Hi everyone. Robert Hernandez, USC Annenberg professor and Web journalist… popping into #wjchat briefly from NOLA.
- 2010-03-11T01:06:00Z
- Chronotope (Aram Zucker-Scharff)
- Hey Everyone! Aram ZS here. New Media Manager for @UPIU and Technology Manager for @GMUStudentMedia #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:05:43Z
- jaosullivanx (Joseph O’Sullivan)
- Joe O’Sullivan, reporter at the Public Opinion in Watertown, SD. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:04:50Z
- kmcurry (Kevin Curry)
- Co-founder & Chief Scientist @ Bridgeborn, Co-founder of @CityCamp I do data portability for #infoviz #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:04:27Z
- newswithnumbers (Numbers Guy)
- Michael Davis owner at NewsWithNumbers.com #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:03:53Z
- madshrew (Andrew Stanfill)
- RT @wjchat: Welcome to #wjchat! Thanks for joining us. This week’s host: @gotoplanb discussing how to use/understand numbers + data
- 2010-03-11T01:03:49Z
- ethanklapper (Ethan Klapper)
- Hey everyone! Ethan Klapper, junior journalism major at American University in D.C., Web editor at The Eagle and intern at WaPo. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:03:41Z
- vanguardiste (Bethany Waggoner)
- Miss Bethany Waggoner here. Blogger on sustainable topics and social issues. Excited to geek out on data tonight! #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:03:34Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Welcome to #wjchat! Thanks for joining us. This week’s host: @gotoplanb discussing how to use/understand numbers + data
- 2010-03-11T01:03:34Z
- madshrew (Andrew Stanfill)
- @wjchat Hey everyone, I’m Andrew and I’m a multimedia intern @GainesvilleSun and UF student. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:03:08Z
- gotoPlanB (David Stanton)
- I’m Dave Stanton, technology fellow @Poynter. I spent the bulk of my doctoral studies dealing with statistics. #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:02:36Z
- andrewzahler (Andrew Zahler)
- If you like data + journalism, tune in. RT @wjchat: Two minutes until action! Join us + @gotoplanb for this week’s #wjchat!
- 2010-03-11T01:02:19Z
- kmcurry (Kevin Curry)
- RT @wjchat: Welcome to #wjchat! Thanks for joining us. This week’s host: @gotoplanb discussing how to use/understand numbers + data
- 2010-03-11T01:02:04Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Super stoked to have you all here! Let’s start w/introductions. Who are you + what do you do? #wjchat
- 2010-03-11T01:01:20Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Welcome to #wjchat! Thanks for joining us. This week’s host: @gotoplanb discussing how to use/understand numbers + data
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