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Chat 6.4.2014 Redesigning websites

June 6, 2014 - Posted in #wjchat archives , Web Journalism Posted by:

5:02 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: Tonight’s #wjchat, we’re RELAUNCHING ALL THE NEWS THINGS. @alleydev hosting. Send us your website redesign Qs! http://t.co/P5nu

Robin J Phillips
@RobinJP


5:03 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: Tonight’s #wjchat, we’re RELAUNCHING ALL THE NEWS THINGS. @alleydev hosting. Send us your website redesign Qs! http://t.co/P5nu

Kirsten Browning
@iJournalista


5:03 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Welcome to the 222nd episode of #wjchat, a weekly discussion for web journalists!

wjchat
@wjchat


5:04 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Checking in to #wjchat! *waves*

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


5:05 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
This #wjchat focuses on relaunching the news w/ @netaustin @xmatt @potatomaster of @alleydev, a web dev firm for digital publishers.

wjchat
@wjchat


5:05 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Hello! *waves back* RT @ShaunaReporter: Checking in to #wjchat! *waves*

wjchat
@wjchat


5:05 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
(REMINDER: It’s not too late to send us your Qs! Please direct to @wjchat) #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:06 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Woohoo! #WJchat!

Alex Campbell
@Indoctrinated


5:06 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Happy to be here tonight! #wjchat

Scott Sutton
@ScottSutton5


5:06 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat @netaustin @xmatt @potatomaster @alleydev hi #wjchat

Adam Popescu
@adampopescu


5:06 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @webjournalist: Job!! The @SeattleTimes is looking for a Video Editor: http://t.co/FnRQ8gP7aV #wjchat #ascj #ONA14 #mediadiversity

dana lacey
@danalacey


5:06 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat Greetings again. I’m Bill Cannon, Dig. Director for @Gannett Indiana Group. #wjchat

William Cannon
@NewsCannon


5:07 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat We meet again. Hey guys. #wjchat

Dave Meddows
@davemeddows


5:07 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat OHAI! Ivan with #dfm and here’s a thing http://t.co/UeoYZKFYLD #wjchat

Ivan Lajara
@ivanlajara


5:07 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Let’s get started! Please introduce yourself, respond to questions & share your knowledge! #DontJustBeALurker #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:08 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Hey #wjchat-ers! Andre here w/ @bhamterminal. One eye on the chat, the other on a certain hockey game… How’s it going tonight?

Andr Natta
@acnatta


5:08 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat Sup, #wjchat! I’m Kirsten, documentary producer, etc. http://t.co/xZSbcPB3cd

Kirsten Browning
@iJournalista


5:08 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Oooh, you fancy, huh. RT @ivanlajara: @wjchat OHAI! Ivan with #dfm and here’s a thing http://t.co/qtgUA2IElB #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:08 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat hi. Susanna from way back when. Haven’t been here a while. Reconnection time!! #wjchat

Susanna Speier
@SusannaSpeier


5:09 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
PROTIP: Spare non- #wjchat people by starting your reply with @wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:09 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: Oooh, you fancy, huh. RT @ivanlajara: @wjchat OHAI! Ivan with #dfm and here’s a thing http://t.co/qtgUA2IElB #wjchat

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


5:09 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat Not really. Had to move all my scrolls to google drive :( so gif :) #wjchat

Ivan Lajara
@ivanlajara


5:09 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Pitch a host or topic to #wjchat : http://t.co/c2yew9vVT7

wjchat
@wjchat


5:10 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@SusannaSpeier yay! you’re back! #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:10 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Brad here from @alleydev, ready to chat about relaunching the news #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


5:10 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat Oh this’ll be good. Cuz I need to relaunch my website. @alleydev (@netaustin, @xmatt, @potatomaster) #wjchat

Susanna Speier
@SusannaSpeier


5:10 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
I don’t even spare non #wjchat people by starting my tweets with @wjchat! #idowhatiwant

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


5:11 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: This #wjchat focuses on relaunching the news w/ @netaustin @xmatt @potatomaster of @alleydev, a web dev firm for digital publis

Robert Hernandez
@webjournalist


5:11 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat @netaustin @xmatt @potatomaster @alleydev Hey #wjchat Emma from Foreign Policy here.

Emma Carew Grovum
@emmacarew


5:11 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat Hi all! I’m T. J. Raphael. I’m a digital editor working in public radio. #wjchat

T.J. Raphael
@TJRaphael


5:11 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Hey guys/girls. I just graduated from @csulb and I’m now working as an associate editor at @PCWorld. One eye on #wjchat, one eye on editing.

Alex Campbell
@Indoctrinated


5:11 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat Kris Fortin, reporter at OC Register. Prob will be a lurker tonight, but we’ll see! #wjchat

Kristopher Fortin
@lapaperboy


5:11 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat I will probably be a lurky turkey most of tonight’s chat but hi from Pittsburgh #wjchat

SocialKimLy
@SocialKimLy


5:11 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat Greetings! Sig here- assistant editor over at @nailsmag http://t.co/D2pWpZ1MgB #wjchat

Sigourney B. Nuez
@sigourneynunez


5:12 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Let’s get this party rolling with a Lightning Round for our hosts to answer ONLY! (Promise you’ll get your turn, soon) #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:12 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Hi all, I’m Robert Hernandez, Web journalist, Profe at @USCAnnenberg, @ONA boarder, @NAHJ lifer and co-creator of #wjchat.

Robert Hernandez
@webjournalist


5:12 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat hello everyone I’m a broadcaster and producer on PBS-KBDI #wjchat

eden lane
@edenlane


5:12 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat waving to @webjournalist #wjchat

Susanna Speier
@SusannaSpeier


5:13 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@SusannaSpeier Hi! Been a while! #wjchat

Robert Hernandez
@webjournalist


5:13 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat Hi! I’m Nicole, a freelance editor/reporter/producer/photographer/former Patch editor in L.A. #wjchat

Nicole Mooradian
@notblue


5:13 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat oh, I should’ve said I’m freelance. Westword. Denver Post. Colorado Public Radio. Daily Beast. Poynter. #wjchat

Susanna Speier
@SusannaSpeier


5:13 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Hello #wjchat, Austin from @alleydev ready to talk site rebuilding!

Austin Smith
@netaustin


5:13 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
LR1: Who/what is Alley Interactive? #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:14 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@webjournalist I know I’ve missed you guys. #wjchat

Susanna Speier
@SusannaSpeier


5:14 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat Hey there everyone #wjchat

Matt Johnson
@xmatt


5:15 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Tuning into #wjchat tonight. I hope the topics are about wed traffic or proactive content.

Benny
@SocialBenjamin


5:15 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat we build big websites that tackle the most complex problems facing digital publishers and content producers #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


5:15 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: LR1: Who/what is Alley Interactive? #wjchat

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


5:15 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
NOTE TO FOLLOWERS: I am joining #wjchat tonight so expect a flood of related tweets.

Robert Hernandez
@webjournalist


5:16 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@SusannaSpeier Glad you could join us! #wjchat

Robert Hernandez
@webjournalist


5:17 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
#wjchat Some recent examples would be @nypost, @Digiday and @tnr

potatomaster
@potatomaster


5:17 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat I’m one of the partners of @alleydev and happy to answer your questions! #wjchat

Matt Johnson
@xmatt


5:17 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Same here. “@webjournalist: NOTE TO FOLLOWERS: I am joining #wjchat tonight so expect a flood of related tweets.”

Robert Moran
@RMoranABC


5:17 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @webjournalist: NOTE TO FOLLOWERS: I am joining #wjchat tonight so expect a flood of related tweets.

Aimee Monahan
@AimeeMonahan


5:18 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
#nowfollowing @RMoranABC: Robert Moran Digital News Associate at @ABC @wjchat #wjchat

Benny
@SocialBenjamin


5:18 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Hello @wjchat I’ve been absent for awhile! #wjchat

Lici Beveridge
@LiciBev


5:18 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
LR2: What are the first questions you ask new clients? #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:18 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: This #wjchat focuses on relaunching the news w/ @netaustin @xmatt @potatomaster of @alleydev, a web dev firm for digital publis

Aimee Monahan
@AimeeMonahan


5:19 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @RMoranABC: Same here. “@webjournalist: NOTE TO FOLLOWERS: I am joining #wjchat tonight so expect a flood of related tweets.”

Kirsten Browning
@iJournalista


5:19 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@rsidneysmith #prodchat Current things competing with my focus: #wjchat

Adam Popescu
@adampopescu


5:19 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@xmatt what do you think of the new #Cosmos ? (Sorry — saw you had an astrophysics background and couldn’t resist) #wjchat

Susanna Speier
@SusannaSpeier


5:19 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat we ask about their goals and what they’re looking for their platform to do, what may have held them back on their old one #wjchat

Matt Johnson
@xmatt


5:20 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
LR3: What’s @alleydev’s take on the top ways publishers need to rethink their digital presence? #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:22 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A3: theres one we can never stress enough, which is mobile first #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


5:22 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
I am only going to be lurking tonight. #wjchat

Robert Moran
@RMoranABC


5:23 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
don’t be a lurker! RT @RMoranABC: I am only going to be lurking tonight. #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:23 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
#mobile #mobilemindshift @potatomaster: @wjchat A3: theres one we can never stress enough, which is mobile first #wjchat

Lici Beveridge
@LiciBev


5:23 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Now time for all of you guys and gals to chime in… Here comes Q1… #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:24 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Q1: What are some successful recent news site redesigns and launches you’ve seen? #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:24 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat: LR2: What are the first questions you ask new clients? #wjchat

What is your sales process? How do you handle your leads?

Benny
@SocialBenjamin


5:24 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@netaustin isn’t WordPress just for blogs? #wjchat

Daniel Bachhuber
@danielbachhuber


5:25 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: Q1: What are some successful recent news site redesigns and launches you’ve seen? #wjchat

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


5:25 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @potatomaster: @wjchat A3: theres one we can never stress enough, which is mobile first #wjchat

Alexis Bellido
@alexisbellido


5:25 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: This #wjchat focuses on relaunching the news w/ @netaustin @xmatt @potatomaster of @alleydev, a web dev firm for digital publis

Brett Whitmarsh
@Timebrat


5:25 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@netaustin how secure can open source be, anyway? OpenSSL had a critical vulnerability #wjchat

Daniel Bachhuber
@danielbachhuber


5:25 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
.@latimes getting lot of love h/t @ktlandan @SLeasca MT @wjchat Q1: Successful recent news site redesigns and launches you’ve seen? #wjchat

Adam Popescu
@adampopescu


5:26 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A1: I’m really digging @latimes redesign lately, esp their tweetables or whatever they call em ;) #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


5:26 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@adampopescu @latimes @ktlandan @SLeasca rightly so! #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


5:26 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: Q1: What are some successful recent news site redesigns and launches you’ve seen? #wjchat

Robert Hernandez
@webjournalist


5:26 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
At first, I poo pooed TIME’s new design. But then I realized I stay on the site longer. So mission accomplished! #WJCHAT

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


5:26 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@chenkx @wjchat @latimes A1: Agreed! #wjchat

Sigourney B. Nuez
@sigourneynunez


5:26 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @chenkx: @wjchat A1: I’m really digging @latimes redesign lately, esp their tweetables or whatever they call em ;) #wjchat

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


5:26 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@danielbachhuber if newspapers are blogs and cable networks are blogs, yes. #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


5:26 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@ShaunaReporter haha, it’s like they never let you leave! *scroll scroll scroll* #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


5:27 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@chenkx @wjchat Yes!! I’m constantly pushing those on our staff at FP #wjchat

Emma Carew Grovum
@emmacarew


5:27 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@adampopescu @latimes @ktlandan @SLeasca @wjchat Seen a lot of ppl bagging it too. But I quite like it. #wjchat

Dave Meddows
@davemeddows


5:27 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: Q1: What are some successful recent news site redesigns and launches you’ve seen? #wjchat

talia ralph
@taliabethralph


5:27 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@emmacarew curious to know if you’ve run into any resistance? #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


5:27 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@RMoranABC don’t be a lurker!!!! #wjchat

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


5:27 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
After a tremendous brainstorming session with the incomparable @kimbui I’m jumping into the #wjchat waters too @RMoranABC @webjournalist

Adam Popescu
@adampopescu


5:27 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @chenkx: @ShaunaReporter haha, it’s like they never let you leave! *scroll scroll scroll* #wjchat

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


5:28 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A1 to expand on my earlier point about mobile first, Im a big fan of Quartz. Also a great immersive experience #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


5:28 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A1. I noticed that all Gannett sites have the same layout & design now, from USA Today to smaller papers owned by Gannett. #wjchat

T.J. Raphael
@TJRaphael


5:28 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@adampopescu dude @kimbui is the definition of awesome. She gets a four taco rating. #wjchat @webjournalist

Robert Moran
@RMoranABC


5:28 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A1: I guess we should also mention @nytimes’ redesign, although it was a while ago. I forget sometimes it even happened #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


5:28 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@SocialBenjamin @wjchat it’s a process of engineering discovery, discerning fit. No pressure! #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


5:28 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@chenkx EXACTLY!!! I feel like a DJ on turntables… If I was DJing.. with my index and middle finger… #wjchat

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


5:28 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Okay fine! “@ShaunaReporter: @RMoranABC don’t be a lurker!!!! #wjchat”

Robert Moran
@RMoranABC


5:28 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat Late to the party. Lurkin tonight. Representing @tcu360! #wjchat

Kent Chapline
@kchapline


5:29 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@ShaunaReporter haha! That’ll be the next analytics trend: Time on Turntable #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


5:29 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat I’ve been digging personal stories on websites where I can continuously scroll and the background changes with the story #wjchat

Jennifer Wolan
@JenniferWolan


5:29 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A1. Not that new, but really love @tnr’s site and the direction that @chrishughes has taken the brand. #wjchat

T.J. Raphael
@TJRaphael


5:30 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@chenkx @wjchat @nytimes also the @latimes redesign. #wjchat

Robert Moran
@RMoranABC


5:30 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
#wjchat but since most traffic comes via social these days (instead of home pages) it can be argued that best design= smart socmed strategy

Adam Popescu
@adampopescu


5:30 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@chenkx A1 but very impressive. It’s a massive platform, changes are very hard. #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


5:30 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
A1. I like all the news sites. That work. On my phone. #wjchat Don’t underestimate simplicity http://t.co/MUiReq3p6t (language NSFW obvs)

Ivan Lajara
@ivanlajara


5:30 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @TJRaphael: @wjchat A1. Not that new, but really love @tnr’s site and the direction that @chrishughes has taken the brand. #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


5:30 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A1. In the world of “ladies” journalism/media, @glamourmag’s site and @xoVain have nice layouts. #wjchat

T.J. Raphael
@TJRaphael


5:30 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @TJRaphael: @wjchat A1. I noticed that all Gannett sites have the same layout & design now, from USA Today to smaller papers owned by Ga

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


5:31 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@JenniferWolan right on. I love @SmithsonianAPA’s recent treatment for their Yuri Kochiyama tribute: http://t.co/unsLDv7S91 #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:31 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@TJRaphael brought to you by tonight’s hosts :-) #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


5:31 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
.@TJRaphael @wjchat That is absolutely true! I remember when our NBC affiliate here @11AliveNews, got their new site design. #wjchat

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


5:31 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
A1 I really like the @LATimes redesign. #wjchat

Robert Moran
@RMoranABC


5:32 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@danielbachhuber There are so many eyes on the open source code (even you can get it), fixes are fast (ala #heartbleed) 2/2 #wjchat

Alex Campbell
@Indoctrinated


5:32 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @TJRaphael: @wjchat A1. Not that new, but really love @tnr’s site and the direction that @chrishughes has taken the brand. #wjchat

Alley Interactive
@alleydev


5:32 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Q2: What are some trends we’re seeing with these redesigns? What are news sites and newsrooms asking for? #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:32 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @TJRaphael: @wjchat A1. Not that new, but really love @tnr’s site and the direction that @chrishughes has taken the brand. #wjchat

Alexis Bellido
@alexisbellido


5:32 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @ivanlajara: A1. I like all the news sites. That work. On my phone. #wjchat Don’t underestimate simplicity http://t.co/MUiReq3p6t (langu

Lici Beveridge
@LiciBev


5:32 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
A1. But I also like little extra touches. Tweetable sentences, side comments, click to play gif. #wjchat

Ivan Lajara
@ivanlajara


5:32 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat @SmithsonianAPA yes! That’s what I’m talking about. I also love it when it’s mobile friendly. #wjchat

Jennifer Wolan
@JenniferWolan


5:32 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
If home pages are no longer attracting enough honey to trap flies…. #wjchat

Adam Popescu
@adampopescu


5:32 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @ivanlajara: A1. I like all the news sites. That work. On my phone. #wjchat Don’t underestimate simplicity http://t.co/MUiReq3p6t (langu

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


5:33 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: Q2: What are some trends we’re seeing with these redesigns? What are news sites and newsrooms asking for? #wjchat

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


5:33 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@netaustin @alleydev Lovely job! Especially since it’s a “magazine”the design really plays to that, but still feels new to the web. #wjchat

T.J. Raphael
@TJRaphael


5:33 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@danielbachhuber also, @WordPress stopped being “just for blogs” a looong time ago. #wjchat

Alex Campbell
@Indoctrinated


5:33 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Engagement Engagement Engagement Engagement Engagement Engagement RT @wjchat Q2: What are news sites and newsrooms asking for? #wjchat

Adam Popescu
@adampopescu


5:33 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat, I’m late and I also have to leave early. But hello. I’m Kim. I do….many things. One is this. Another is working w Beacon. #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


5:33 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
.@wjchat continuous scrolling is a big one, especially for the @latimes revamp. Keeps readers on the page longer #wjchat

Riley Snyder
@RileySnyder


5:33 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: Q2: What are some trends we’re seeing with these redesigns? What are news sites and newsrooms asking for? #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


5:33 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Q2) The BIG element is making content easy to share on social media! #wjchat

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


5:33 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
“@adampopescu: If home pages are no longer attracting enough honey to trap flies…. #wjchat” make every page a home page!

Austin Smith
@netaustin


5:34 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
oh, he knows. “@Indoctrinated: @danielbachhuber also, @WordPress stopped being “just for blogs” a looong time ago. #wjchat”

Austin Smith
@netaustin


5:34 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @RileySnyder: .@wjchat continuous scrolling is a big one, especially for the @latimes revamp. Keeps readers on the page longer #wjchat

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


5:34 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat I’m seeing that the homepage as the main entry is becoming less & less important as social plays an increasing role. #wjchat

T.J. Raphael
@TJRaphael


5:34 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A2 everyone sees the trend in mobile traffic rising exponentially, so a great experience on all screen sizes is key #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


5:34 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat The push toward “it works on mobile or it doesn’t work” is obvious. Sometimes sacrificing design aesthetic though #wjchat

Emma Carew Grovum
@emmacarew


5:34 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@RileySnyder I wonder, though, if people really do read more than one article if new ones auto feed. #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


5:34 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
A2 I am seeing a lot more bright colors. And more base colors like blue and black. #wjchat

Robert Moran
@RMoranABC


5:34 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @adampopescu: #wjchat but since most traffic comes via social these days (instead of home pages) it can be argued that best design= smar

Lici Beveridge
@LiciBev


5:35 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @netaustin: “@adampopescu: If home pages are no longer attracting enough honey to trap flies…. #wjchat” make every page a home page!

Alex Campbell
@Indoctrinated


5:35 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@kimbui @RileySnyder If only we had, like, numbers or whatever to show for it… #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


5:35 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @emmacarew: @wjchat The push toward “it works on mobile or it doesn’t work” is obvious. Sometimes sacrificing design aesthetic though #w

Matthew Delman
@mattdelman


5:35 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@emmacarew I could do without yet another redesign with cards. Or box-puzzles. #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


5:35 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@ShaunaReporter @RileySnyder @wjchat I am a big fan of the @latimes redesign. #wjchat

Robert Moran
@RMoranABC


5:35 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat Most want to engage and hold onto readers. Seeking ways to recirculate them instead of an in/out bounce. #wjchat

William Cannon
@NewsCannon


5:35 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat Aloha folks! Sorry for being late. Gene from Honolulu @CivilBeat, which recently underwent its own redesign last week! #wjchat

Gene Park
@GenePark


5:35 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @RileySnyder: .@wjchat continuous scrolling is a big one, especially for the @latimes revamp. Keeps readers on the page longer #wjchat

dana lacey
@danalacey


5:35 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat What other visual trends? Fonts? Image feeds? RT @RMoranABC more bright colors. And more base colors like blue and black #wjchat

Susanna Speier
@SusannaSpeier


5:35 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@chenkx Yeah, I’d kill for LAT or some other sites to share stats POST redesign. Good and bad. #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


5:35 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @adampopescu: Engagement Engagement Engagement Engagement Engagement Engagement RT @wjchat Q2: What are news sites and newsrooms aski

wjchat
@wjchat


5:36 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@TJRaphael @wjchat Yeah, the whole “every page is page one” mantra is critically important now. #wjchat

Matthew Delman
@mattdelman


5:36 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @adampopescu: Engagement Engagement Engagement Engagement Engagement Engagement RT @wjchat Q2: What are news sites and newsrooms aski

dana lacey
@danalacey


5:36 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
I am mixed it’s slowly growing on me. #wjchat RT @ClarionEIC: @wjchat @webjournalist I really like the LA Times site, personally!

Robert Hernandez
@webjournalist


5:36 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@TJRaphael @wjchat Never stop relaunching I say, it’s what agile web development is all about #wjchat

Matt Johnson
@xmatt


5:36 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat @webjournalist Successful: @NPR. Unsuccessful: @BostonGlobe/@BostonDotCom. Too hard to find content. #wjchat

Amanda Art
@NYNewsgirl


5:36 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat I’m also seeing more Pinterest-like site redesigns with very big photos. #wjchat

T.J. Raphael
@TJRaphael


5:36 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
A2 platforms to build more than just stories. Charts, graphs, snowfalls… #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


5:36 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@SusannaSpeier Auto crop images. Text over images. White sans serif, specifically. #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


5:36 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @xmatt: @TJRaphael @wjchat Never stop relaunching I say, it’s what agile web development is all about #wjchat

dana lacey
@danalacey


5:36 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @NYNewsgirl: @wjchat @webjournalist Successful: @NPR. Unsuccessful: @BostonGlobe/@BostonDotCom. Too hard to find content. #wjchat

Robert Hernandez
@webjournalist


5:37 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
MT @TJRaphael: @netaustin Lovely job! Especially since it’s a “magazine” design really plays to that, but feels new to the web. #wjchat

Alley Interactive
@alleydev


5:37 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@SusannaSpeier more Arial type fonts and more graphics and menus. #wjchat @wjchat

Robert Moran
@RMoranABC


5:37 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A2 its also key to improve the newsrooms experience by building the right tools to suit the workflow of the new site #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


5:37 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @xmatt: @TJRaphael @wjchat Never stop relaunching I say, it’s what agile web development is all about #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:37 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@webjournalist I’m not used to it either. And some things I think could use tweaking, but it’s WAY better than before. #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


5:37 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @mattdelman: @TJRaphael @wjchat Yeah, the whole “every page is page one” mantra is critically important now. #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:37 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A2 someone mentioned share buttons. More on share buttons? With partial feeds or without? Specific WordPress recs? #wjchat

Susanna Speier
@SusannaSpeier


5:37 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat cards. Atomization. #wjchat

Ivan Lajara
@ivanlajara


5:37 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@TJRaphael @wjchat The news co I worked for back in the day did that. Every paper, from weeklies to dailies, had same basic layout. #wjchat

Matthew Delman
@mattdelman


5:37 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@RMoranABC @RileySnyder @wjchat @latimes I’m a big fan of the “in case you missed it” section. #wjchat

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


5:37 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@webjournalist I’m mixed too, but I usually give the big guys a pass. Hard to steer a big ship #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


5:38 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @netaustin: A2 platforms to build more than just stories. Charts, graphs, snowfalls… #wjchat

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


5:38 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Me too! “@ShaunaReporter: @RMoranABC @RileySnyder @wjchat @latimes I’m a big fan of the “in case you missed it” section. #wjchat”

Robert Moran
@RMoranABC


5:38 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat Sorry to interrupt: Just an fyi that we are hiring. http://t.co/QRMpgAKzKe #wjchat

Jim Welch
@CTnewshound


5:38 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @potatomaster: @wjchat A2 its also key to improve the newsrooms experience by building the right tools to suit the workflow of the new

Lici Beveridge
@LiciBev


5:38 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat, You know what I love about all the redesigns. Fonts. We are actually using fonts that are not web-standard. Much prettier. #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


5:38 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@netaustin @webjournalist funny, my peers aren’t into the change. But my non-journo friends love it #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


5:38 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @NewsCannon: @wjchat Most want to engage and hold onto readers. Seeking ways to recirculate them instead of an in/out bounce. #wjchat

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


5:38 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
.@netaustin and how do we make every page a home page? By creating the same dynamic material + compelling calls to action EVERYWHERE #wjchat

Adam Popescu
@adampopescu


5:38 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@kimbui I actually liked the previous redesign for its time. The look and layout stood out compared to other Trib sites. #wjchat

Robert Hernandez
@webjournalist


5:38 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Hullo #wjchat — freelance econ/finance journo here, with a bit of a nerd-on for web design and digital media.

Matthew Delman
@mattdelman


5:38 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @xmatt: @TJRaphael @wjchat Never stop relaunching I say, it’s what agile web development is all about #wjchat

Emma Carew Grovum
@emmacarew


5:39 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @adampopescu: .@netaustin and how do we make every page a home page? By creating the same dynamic material + compelling calls to action

Matthew Delman
@mattdelman


5:39 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @netaustin: @webjournalist I’m mixed too, but I usually give the big guys a pass. Hard to steer a big ship #wjchat

Robert Hernandez
@webjournalist


5:39 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Q4 coming up! Getting into the nitty gritty of it all… #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:39 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @chenkx: @netaustin @webjournalist funny, my peers aren’t into the change. But my non-journo friends love it #wjchat

Robert Hernandez
@webjournalist


5:39 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Me too| “.ShaunaReporter: .RMoranABC .RileySnyder .wjchat .latimes Im a big fan of the “Never Forget” section. #wjchat”

Never Forget Bot
@forgetmebot


5:39 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
#wjchat The @latimes social media guru/wizard @SLeasca did a tips lists/explanation of redesign https://t.co/G3YWZp9imO

Riley Snyder
@RileySnyder


5:39 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@chenkx @netaustin That is super interesting the truth is non-journos matter more. #wjchat

Robert Hernandez
@webjournalist


5:39 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
A2. Cats, obvs. http://t.co/pyAKQN1RVe #wjchat

Digital First cat
@DFNewsCat


5:39 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @xmatt: @TJRaphael @wjchat Never stop relaunching I say, it’s what agile web development is all about #wjchat

Alley Interactive
@alleydev


5:39 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Q3: What are things to consider before you decide to redesign, rebuild and relaunch a huge news site? #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:40 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@chenkx @netaustin @webjournalist It took some getting used to but Ive noticed I visit @latimes a lot more these days. I like it #wjchat

Gene Park
@GenePark


5:40 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@webjournalist Anything that gets away from cookie cutter sites. #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


5:40 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@chenkx @netaustin @webjournalist What bothers me more about redesigns is when they make the menu hard to find/use. #wjchat

Matthew Delman
@mattdelman


5:40 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Lol RT @DFNewsCat A2. Cats, obvs. http://t.co/GwXgQ4WB7x #wjchat #wjchat

Robert Moran
@RMoranABC


5:40 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Q3 cont: (budget? open vs closed source? in house vs firm?) #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:40 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@mattdelman @netaustin @webjournalist I know right? Do they do that on purpose?!?! #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


5:40 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Oh the wonderment RT @DFNewsCat A2. Cats, obvs. http://t.co/BGAI0ZYDPF #wjchat #mrrow

Susanna Speier
@SusannaSpeier


5:40 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: Q2: What are some trends we’re seeing with these redesigns? What are news sites and newsrooms asking for? #wjchat

Robert Hernandez
@webjournalist


5:41 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@chenkx @netaustin @webjournalist It’s what happens when you let designers just go crazy without any apparent focus on UX. #wjchat

Matthew Delman
@mattdelman


5:41 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A3 identify your most important features by what youd include on the mobile version of your site. Make those the best #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


5:41 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A3. mobile. Bandwidth. #wjchat

Ivan Lajara
@ivanlajara


5:41 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat Q2: Responsive, responsive, responsive! #wjchat

Robert Hernandez
@webjournalist


5:41 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat What do yours READERS want? What do they not know they want, but would love to have? What is sacred to readers? #wjchat

William Cannon
@NewsCannon


5:41 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: Q3: What are things to consider before you decide to redesign, rebuild and relaunch a huge news site? #wjchat

Robert Hernandez
@webjournalist


5:41 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
.@wjchat open source! If you want to be taken serious by those in coding world, follow their example! #wjchat

Riley Snyder
@RileySnyder


5:41 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
A3 do I have a single defining mission? Or this another chance for stakeholders to grab what they can get? #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


5:41 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat open and in house, I think. But that’s what I’m always told by developers. #wjchat

Jennifer Wolan
@JenniferWolan


5:41 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@mattdelman @netaustin @webjournalist really depends on brand size. Smaller niche publications NEED a prominent “about us” #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


5:41 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat I prefer open source stuff and contracted out. In my experience, in-house folks tend to get too embedded in the politics. #wjchat

Matthew Delman
@mattdelman


5:41 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @NewsCannon: @wjchat What do yours READERS want? What do they not know they want, but would love to have? What is sacred to readers? #wj

Lici Beveridge
@LiciBev


5:41 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat Archives yo. Making sure old articles don’t break. #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


5:41 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A3 also learn from your analytics. What your visitors actually do will sometimes surprise you #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


5:42 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@mattdelman @netaustin @webjournalist ahaa, who steers THAT ship? #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


5:42 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @adampopescu: .@netaustin and how do we make every page a home page? By creating the same dynamic material + compelling calls to action

wjchat
@wjchat


5:42 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@mattdelman That depends on how much free reign they’re given. The more controlling management = the worse redesign. #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


5:42 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @potatomaster: @wjchat A3 also learn from your analytics. What your visitors actually do will sometimes surprise you #wjchat

Anna Li
@ax_li


5:42 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat I’d say mobile is hugely important. And multimedia functionality – in radio, the audio player has got to work everywhere. #wjchat

T.J. Raphael
@TJRaphael


5:43 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @NewsCannon: @wjchat What do yours READERS want? What do they not know they want, but would love to have? What is sacred to readers? #wj

wjchat
@wjchat


5:43 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @potatomaster @wjchat A3 also learn from your analytics. What your visitors actually do will sometimes surprise you #wjchat

Alley Interactive
@alleydev


5:43 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@chenkx @netaustin @webjournalist True, but folks can get annoyed when it takes longer than 10 secs to figure out where to click. #wjchat

Matthew Delman
@mattdelman


5:43 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@potatomaster They often lie in surveys, too. Make sure you remember what they say isn’t what they do most times. #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


5:43 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @mattdelman: Hullo #wjchat — freelance econ/finance journo here, with a bit of a nerd-on for web design and digital media.

Online Freelancer
@ArlenaHargraves


5:43 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@kimbui exactly why analytics are far more valuable #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


5:43 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @potatomaster: @wjchat A3 also learn from your analytics. What your visitors actually do will sometimes surprise you #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:43 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
A3… OPEN SOURCE #wjchat

Daniel Bachhuber
@danielbachhuber


5:44 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A3: What do you keep, what do you kill, when do you stop. #wjchat

Dave Stanton
@gotoplanb


5:44 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@TJRaphael @wjchat Totally agree the homepage is becoming less and less important. But Hawaii readers are still in the habit. :\ #wjchat

Gene Park
@GenePark


5:44 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@kimbui I’m a huge proponent of collaboration across departments. No single team should have total free reign. #wjchat

Matthew Delman
@mattdelman


5:44 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@potatomaster True story. #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


5:44 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A3: What priority is driving the redesign? Backend? easier to navigate? sharing? Time on site/stickiness? paywall things… #wjchat

Emma Carew Grovum
@emmacarew


5:44 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @gotoplanb: @wjchat A3: What do you keep, what do you kill, when do you stop. #wjchat

Robert Hernandez
@webjournalist


5:44 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @kimbui: @potatomaster They often lie in surveys, too. Make sure you remember what they say isn’t what they do most times. #wjchat

Matthew Delman
@mattdelman


5:44 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat sooo…what about budget considerations? *cricket cricket* #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


5:44 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@kimbui Whanged that sucker right on the head, there. #wjchat

Matthew Delman
@mattdelman


5:45 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Woah. I just realized I’ve been a part of four redesigns in my career. Thats one short of one for every org I’ve worked for. #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


5:45 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@kimbui amazing!! Lived to tell about all of them :) #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


5:45 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat What’s worked for the org and what hasn’t ideally have numbers to back up those assertions #wjchat (also, hiii, jumping right in)

Julia B. Chan
@juliachanb


5:45 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
.@mattdelman @kimbui I’m not sure I agree. One ultimate product owner will keep you on time and in scope. #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


5:45 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@mattdelman Yeah, but in redesigns, too many cooks in the kitchen is a BAD idea. #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


5:45 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: Q3: What are things to consider before you decide to redesign, rebuild and relaunch a huge news site? #wjchat

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


5:45 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@kimbui I’ve also seen free reign of designers where stock images overtook content … in a content company. #wjchat

Matthew Delman
@mattdelman


5:45 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@chenkx @wjchat you should spend money on talent, not software, which is why we advocate battled tested open source solutions #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


5:46 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@chenkx @wjchat how much ya got? #wjchat

Adam Popescu
@adampopescu


5:46 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @potatomaster: @chenkx @wjchat you should spend money on talent, not software, which is why we advocate battled tested open source solut

wjchat
@wjchat


5:46 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@adampopescu @wjchat pennies on a click. Impressed much?? #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


5:46 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@netaustin @kimbui “Owner” doesn’t necessarily mean “god-ruler” of the redesign though. #wjchat

Matthew Delman
@mattdelman


5:46 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
.@chenkx @wjchat there is a news site for every budget. Have a little? Install WordPress. #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


5:46 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @emmacarew: @wjchat A3: What priority is driving the redesign? Backend? easier to navigate? sharing? Time on site/stickiness? paywall th

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


5:46 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@kimbui I’ve been part of four redesigns in the last five or six years at the same organization. Constant change. #wjchat

Lici Beveridge
@LiciBev


5:46 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@netaustin @mattdelman In building a product, too many opinions will make things take too long. Pick a small group of stakeholders. #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


5:46 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @netaustin: .@mattdelman @kimbui I’m not sure I agree. One ultimate product owner will keep you on time and in scope. #wjchat

dana lacey
@danalacey


5:47 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @netaustin: .@chenkx @wjchat there is a news site for every budget. Have a little? Install WordPress. #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:47 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@netaustin what’s on the other spectrum? #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


5:47 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@potatomaster @wjchat CIR visitors LOVE our “Our History” page.. and our Jobs page. Go figure.. #wjchat

Julia B. Chan
@juliachanb


5:47 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
I’ll take any opportunity I can to sneak a cat onto the page RT @DFNewsCat: A2. Cats, obvs. http://t.co/LsjrUxlse3 #wjchat

Amy R. Peiffer
@amyrpeiffer


5:47 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@LiciBev You might win over me. #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


5:48 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Q4 I want to relaunch my newsroom’s website. Where should I start? #wjchat http://t.co/aAURdGLx6w

wjchat
@wjchat


5:48 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@juliachanb @potatomaster @wjchat Our visitors love our public salaries database. That info isnt available anywhere else in Hawaii #wjchat

Gene Park
@GenePark


5:48 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @kimbui: @netaustin @mattdelman In building a product, too many opinions will make things take too long. Pick a small group of stakehold

Emma Carew Grovum
@emmacarew


5:48 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@GenePark @wjchat I’d say evolve slowly then, right? Some audiences get nervous at big changes all at once. #wjchat

T.J. Raphael
@TJRaphael


5:48 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: Q4 I want to relaunch my newsroom’s website. Where should I start? #wjchat http://t.co/aAURdGLx6w

William Cannon
@NewsCannon


5:48 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@GenePark @wjchat PS super jealous that you live in Hawaii. #wjchat

T.J. Raphael
@TJRaphael


5:48 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@netaustin @chenkx @wjchat have a lot? Also consider WordPress #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


5:49 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @netaustin .@chenkx @wjchat there is a news site for every budget. Have a little? Install WordPress. #wjchat

Alley Interactive
@alleydev


5:49 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat THIS! cc @chenkx RT @kimbui: @mattdelman Yeah, but in redesigns, too many cooks in the kitchen is a BAD idea. #wjchat

Julia B. Chan
@juliachanb


5:49 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: Q4 I want to relaunch my newsroom’s website. Where should I start? #wjchat http://t.co/aAURdGLx6w

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


5:49 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A3 cont: your platform can be maint’d by a whole cadre of devs who know the code and you can spend your budget on people #wjchat

Matt Johnson
@xmatt


5:49 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A4: start with a pre-emptive run to the liquor store, obviously. #wjchat

Emma Carew Grovum
@emmacarew


5:49 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @emmacarew: @wjchat A4: start with a pre-emptive run to the liquor store, obviously. #wjchat

Matthew Delman
@mattdelman


5:49 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @emmacarew @wjchat A4: start with a pre-emptive run to the liquor store, obviously. #wjchat

Alley Interactive
@alleydev


5:49 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@TJRaphael @wjchat I dont know what youre talking about. #wjchat http://t.co/RKqyjS6KDo

Gene Park
@GenePark


5:50 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
And snacks. RT @emmacarew: @wjchat A4: start with a pre-emptive run to the liquor store, obviously. #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:50 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@emmacarew @wjchat cant disagree with that #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


5:50 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@kimbui idk lol I feel like that’s what I’m always doing. Less time for the news part – maybe it’s not so good. #wjchat

Lici Beveridge
@LiciBev


5:50 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Relaunching anything is a study in discipline, commitment to change, and the ability to objectively analyze shortcomings and improve #wjchat

Adam Popescu
@adampopescu


5:50 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat And snacks. RT @emmacarew: @wjchat A4: start with a pre-emptive run to the liquor store, obviously. #wjchat

Alley Interactive
@alleydev


5:50 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A4. CMS should be digital-based, with print as last step or separate, not the other way around. #wjchat

Ivan Lajara
@ivanlajara


5:50 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A3 also, open source platform’s direction is set by community consensus, not corporate fiat #wjchat

Matt Johnson
@xmatt


5:50 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat 1) Input from staff and users on pain points
2) brainstorm of dream designs
3) Realistic budgets
4) Hire the right ppl
etc #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


5:50 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
I remember @nprnews did a focus group before their new site design. #wjchat

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


5:51 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@ivanlajara @wjchat *sigh* It wasnt like that at all at the paper I worked at. #wjchat

Gene Park
@GenePark


5:51 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@ivanlajara @wjchat O.o #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


5:51 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @kimbui: @wjchat 1) Input from staff and users on pain points
2) brainstorm of dream designs
3) Realistic budgets
4) Hire the right ppl

Matthew Delman
@mattdelman


5:51 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @kimbui: @wjchat 1) Input from staff and users on pain points
2) brainstorm of dream designs
3) Realistic budgets
4) Hire the right ppl

wjchat
@wjchat


5:51 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
A4 internal discovery. Why are we here? #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


5:51 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @ShaunaReporter: I remember @nprnews did a focus group before their new site design. #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:51 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @kimbui: @wjchat 1) Input from staff and users on pain points
2) brainstorm of dream designs
3) Realistic budgets
4) Hire the right ppl

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


5:51 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@ivanlajara @wjchat Its like what @webjournalist once wrote. It was merely putting the Mona Lisa online. #wjchat

Gene Park
@GenePark


5:52 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@GenePark @wjchat I’d like to see the newspaper that has such a CMS. We’re getting there, but not there yet. #wjchat

Ivan Lajara
@ivanlajara


5:52 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Q4) This is going to sound obvious, but usability testing is a BIG deal. Make sure it is FUNCTIONAL for work flow. #wjchat

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


5:52 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@GenePark @wjchat Whaaaaattttttt. http://t.co/zGRjBEC6E1 #wjchat

T.J. Raphael
@TJRaphael


5:52 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @ShaunaReporter: Q4) This is going to sound obvious, but usability testing is a BIG deal. Make sure it is FUNCTIONAL for work flow. #wj

wjchat
@wjchat


5:53 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@ivanlajara @GenePark @wjchat we just built one on WordPress for a client. Print and digital come from the same online workflow #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


5:53 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A4: but definitely create a wishlist and dream big; then prioritize and create scope of the process from there #wjchat

Emma Carew Grovum
@emmacarew


5:53 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A4: Design all of your APIs and actually have mock services before you make any visual design. #wjchat

Dave Stanton
@gotoplanb


5:53 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@GenePark @TJRaphael @wjchat Now you’re just being mean. ;) #wjchat

Matthew Delman
@mattdelman


5:53 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@TJRaphael @wjchat That is our photographers backyard. Literally his backyard. #wjchat

Gene Park
@GenePark


5:53 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @ivanlajara: @wjchat A4. CMS should be digital-based, with print as last step or separate, not the other way around. #wjchat

Emma Carew Grovum
@emmacarew


5:53 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @emmacarew: @wjchat A4: but definitely create a wishlist and dream big; then prioritize and create scope of the process from there #wjch

wjchat
@wjchat


5:53 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @ShaunaReporter: Q4) This is going to sound obvious, but usability testing is a BIG deal. Make sure it is FUNCTIONAL for work flow. #wj

Matthew Delman
@mattdelman


5:53 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
This for sure. RT @gotoplanb @wjchat A4: Design all of your APIs and actually have mock services before you make any visual design. #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


5:53 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @ivanlajara: @wjchat A4. CMS should be digital-based, with print as last step or separate, not the other way around. #wjchat

dana lacey
@danalacey


5:54 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Side note, journalists have to self advocate. Business won’t build you the workflow you need #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


5:54 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Q5A: What are the pros and cons of working with an outside firm? #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:54 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @netaustin Side note, journalists have to self advocate. Business won’t build you the workflow you need #wjchat

Alley Interactive
@alleydev


5:54 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
+ INFINITY MT @potatomaster: @GenePark we just built one on WordPress. Print and digital come from the same online workflow #wjchat

Ivan Lajara
@ivanlajara


5:54 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @ShaunaReporter: I remember @nprnews did a focus group before their new site design. #wjchat

Keosha Varela
@K_J_Writes


5:54 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @netaustin: Side note, journalists have to self advocate. Business won’t build you the workflow you need #wjchat

Emma Carew Grovum
@emmacarew


5:55 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
INCEPTION RT @ivanlajara: + INFINITY MT @potatomaster: @GenePark … Print/digital come from the same online workflow #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


5:55 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: Q5A: What are the pros and cons of working with an outside firm? #wjchat

Myrlande(MC)Charlus
@MCTheWriter


5:55 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A4 Get real data to inform project goals. Talk to editorial about what holds them back, and research what readers respond to #wjchat

Matt Johnson
@xmatt


5:55 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A5A An outside firm has poor news judgment, so it requires a lot of editorial input to make sure were serving our readers #wjchat

Gene Park
@GenePark


5:55 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat Pro: New ideas not jaded by years of hatred of current site Con: Sometimes con you. Don’t always get the vibe of the content #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


5:55 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @GenePark: @ivanlajara @wjchat Its like what @webjournalist once wrote. It was merely putting the Mona Lisa online. #wjchat

Robert Hernandez
@webjournalist


5:55 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat Con: Expensive to continue support once contract period is up – What are the pros and cons of working with an outside firm? #wjchat

Tawanda Kanhema
@KanhemaPhoto


5:55 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A5a. Pro: They depend on success and strive for yours. Con: They can go belly up, and then what? #wjchat

Ivan Lajara
@ivanlajara


5:56 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@chenkx @genepark I wish more people would spend $$$ on the CMS issue. #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


5:56 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
.@kimbui only in… No project ever. Sometimes the rfp we get is a bundle of psds. #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


5:56 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@kimbui @genepark assuming you get what you pay for… :/ but yes, I agree people should prioritize the whole “technology” thing #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


5:57 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat Pros: hopefully they bring lessons from previous editorial rebuilds. Cons: they could botch things & leave you in a lurch. #wjchat

Emma Carew Grovum
@emmacarew


5:57 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@netaustin Only one tech team I worked with actually did this, and it made the redesign so seamless. No one thinks about the pipes! #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


5:57 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
.@kimbui @chenkx @GenePark funding open source is the way to go there. There’s no competitive advantage in workflow. #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


5:58 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@potatomaster @ivanlajara @GenePark @wjchat How’s client dealing w/ diff audiences each medium courts? Is it all the same copy?#wjchat

Julia B. Chan
@juliachanb


5:58 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @netaustin .@kimbui @chenkx @GenePark funding open source is the way to go there. There’s no competitive advantage in workflow. #wjchat

Alley Interactive
@alleydev


5:58 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @netaustin: .@kimbui @chenkx @GenePark funding open source is the way to go there. There’s no competitive advantage in workflow. #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


5:58 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@kimbui I believe you! We are too often called too late. #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


5:58 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@kanhemaphoto @wjchat Definitely possible, but important to consider what happens to the site after launch. #wjchat

Matt Johnson
@xmatt


5:58 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
switching gears for Q5B… #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:58 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@netaustin I had this dream once of all the big guns getting together and working on one CMS to save us all. #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


5:58 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@kimbui @chenkx @GenePark agreed, I’ve used so many shit CMS systems over the years, so many woefully inefficient #wjchat

Adam Popescu
@adampopescu


5:58 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@juliachanb @ivanlajara @GenePark @wjchat We give them the ability to edit for each. But it all comes from one place #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


5:59 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Q5B: What are the pros and cons of developing from WITHIN the existing news org? #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


5:59 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat Q5B: What are the pros and cons of developing from WITHIN the existing news org? #wjchat

Alley Interactive
@alleydev


5:59 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @potatomaster: @wjchat A3 also learn from your analytics. What your visitors actually do will sometimes surprise you #wjchat

Keosha Varela
@K_J_Writes


6:00 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @webjournalist: @wjchat Q2: Responsive, responsive, responsive! #wjchat

Keosha Varela
@K_J_Writes


6:00 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A5B Pro: you know your product the best. Con: youve spent too much time with your product. #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


6:00 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat Pro: Understanding of news values/judgement. Con: Sometimes hidebound by “way we do things here.” #wjchat

Matthew Delman
@mattdelman


6:00 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat Pro: Know exactly what you want Con: Often build exactly what they want. #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


6:00 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
JINX RT @potatomaster: @wjchat A5B Pro: you know your product the best. Con: youve spent too much time with your product. #wjchat

Matthew Delman
@mattdelman


6:00 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@kimbui @netaustin Doesnt exist. #wjchat

Dave Stanton
@gotoplanb


6:00 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
#wjchat how do I get the little blue check next to my name to show that im@a verified account?

Benny
@SocialBenjamin


6:00 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@emmacarew @wjchat I’ve witness this con (ha) twice same newsroom tho.. #wjchat

Julia B. Chan
@juliachanb


6:00 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@potatomaster Hah, that is pretty much what I was saying. #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


6:01 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @potatomaster: @wjchat A5B Pro: you know your product the best. Con: youve spent too much time with your product. #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


6:01 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat the problem with news orgs = the people working there think they know EVERYTHING. Of course, they don’t, but think they DO #wjchat

Adam Popescu
@adampopescu


6:01 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @kimbui: @chenkx @genepark I wish more people would spend $$$ on the CMS issue. #wjchat

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


6:02 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @potatomaster @wjchat A5B Pro: you know your product the best. Con: youve spent too much time with your product. #wjchat

Alley Interactive
@alleydev


6:02 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Q5C: Sooooo….outside firm vs. in house — how do you know which is right for you? #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


6:02 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A5B Con: may accidentally sign up your internal team for more work than they handle while still keeping your old site afloat #wjchat

Matt Johnson
@xmatt


6:02 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat OK, #wjchat sorry, but I have to bounce. Time to switch back to dad mode and feed my kid. Cheers!

Robert Hernandez
@webjournalist


6:02 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@adampopescu @wjchat That’s … not just news orgs. #wjchat

Matthew Delman
@mattdelman


6:02 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
.@wjchat Pro: More support for when back-end things crash. Helps if help desk is in same building/company for reporters #wjchat

Riley Snyder
@RileySnyder


6:03 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat Pro: easier for ongoing maintenance & iteration Cons: What of the daily duties gets sacrificed while they’re building? #wjchat

Emma Carew Grovum
@emmacarew


6:03 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@webjournalist good ‘seeing’ you. #wjchat

Susanna Speier
@SusannaSpeier


6:03 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: Q5C: Sooooo….outside firm vs. in house — how do you know which is right for you? #wjchat

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


6:03 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@mattdelman @wjchat them damn know-it-all zombies… they’re everywhere #wjchat

Adam Popescu
@adampopescu


6:03 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @ivanlajara: @wjchat A4. CMS should be digital-based, with print as last step or separate, not the other way around. #wjchat

Christine W Taylor
@chrissywtaylor


6:03 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@adampopescu @wjchat Yes, yes they are. Last full-time gig was in a marketing services gig. Whew boy.#wjchat

Matthew Delman
@mattdelman


6:04 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
.@wjchat also con? Incentives don’t always align. IT departments are very risk averse. #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


6:04 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @webjournalist: @wjchat Q2: Responsive, responsive, responsive! #wjchat

Salem
@Salem_Solomon


6:04 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @netaustin: .@wjchat also con? Incentives don’t always align. IT departments are very risk averse. #wjchat

Matthew Delman
@mattdelman


6:04 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@GenePark @mattdelman @chenkx @potatomaster GOOD. NOW ADD A CAT http://t.co/uFLcC672kJ #wjchat

Digital First cat
@DFNewsCat


6:04 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A5B set parameters & flexibility; control your content & archive; run it on local machines so no lag; boost in-house skills #wjchat

Samantha Wood
@cornerrobot


6:05 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@LiciBev no, no, no, everyone BUT YOU #wjchat :P

Adam Popescu
@adampopescu


6:05 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
On the flip side, taking work outside can alienate staff devs #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


6:06 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A5c. Whichever one ends up in a site that works. What is the team’s goal (inhouse or out)? That should inform result. #wjchat

Ivan Lajara
@ivanlajara


6:06 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@DFNewsCat @GenePark @mattdelman @potatomaster Her name is RELAUNCHED #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


6:06 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Q6: What are the different phases of a redesign/launch? Ideally AND realistically, what does the timeframe look like? #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


6:06 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @ivanlajara: @wjchat A5c. Whichever one ends up in a site that works. What is the team’s goal (inhouse or out)? That should inform resul

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


6:07 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A7: Idk, years? months? #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


6:08 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@chenkx @wjchat 4-6 months is a common timeframe in our experience #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


6:09 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
A6: how complicated is your site? 3-18 months is typical for us. #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


6:09 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat Always found it odd that news orgs do full switch for everyone immediately, while twitter/facebook slowly roll out redesign #wjchat

Riley Snyder
@RileySnyder


6:09 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A6 I think there needs to be enough time to test and work out bugs before launch. Don’t fix as you go. 1/2 #wjchat

Lici Beveridge
@LiciBev


6:09 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @netaustin: A6: how complicated is your site? 3-18 months is typical for us. #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


6:10 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@RileySnyder @wjchat I think that’s assuming you’re on a non-legacy platform that can handle iterative changes? #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


6:10 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A6 2/2 but not too long to be outdated before you get started. Make tweaks seamless and flawless. #wjchat

Lici Beveridge
@LiciBev


6:10 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @LiciBev: @wjchat A6 I think there needs to be enough time to test and work out bugs before launch. Don’t fix as you go. 1/2 #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


6:10 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A6 Our avg project usually is from 3 to 12 months, VERY dependent on parameters of the project, but that’s the typical range #wjchat

Matt Johnson
@xmatt


6:10 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @xmatt: @wjchat A6 Our avg project usually is from 3 to 12 months, VERY dependent on parameters of the project, but that’s the typical r

wjchat
@wjchat


6:11 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A6 and of course there are exceptions in either direction #wjchat

Matt Johnson
@xmatt


6:11 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @LiciBev @wjchat A6 I think there needs to be enough time to test and work out bugs before launch. Don’t fix as you go. 1/2 #wjchat

Alley Interactive
@alleydev


6:11 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@RileySnyder @wjchat Excellent point and not a bad idea! #wjchat

Lici Beveridge
@LiciBev


6:11 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A6 but really, our ideal project length is infinity, since we want to stick around and help post launch too! #wjchat

Matt Johnson
@xmatt


6:11 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@LiciBev @wjchat best to pick features to roll out post launch as they are finished than to launch with bugs #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


6:12 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @alleydev: RT @LiciBev @wjchat A6 I think there needs to be enough time to test and work out bugs before launch. Don’t fix as you go. 1/

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


6:12 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: Q6: What are the different phases of a redesign/launch? Ideally AND realistically, what does the timeframe look like? #wjchat

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


6:12 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@chenkx @wjchat well yeah. just making the point that iterative changes can be useful. Test different headlines, stuff like that #wjchat

Riley Snyder
@RileySnyder


6:12 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@RileySnyder @wjchat truth #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


6:13 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Q7: How do you migrate the archived posts to the new system? And how do you choose what to migrate? #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


6:13 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A6. Whatever it is, don’t launch site if not ready just because you have a deadline. Shiny cars without wheels are blegh. #wjchat

Ivan Lajara
@ivanlajara


6:13 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat in a word, interns #wjchat

Riley Snyder
@RileySnyder


6:14 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@netaustin @potatomaster @licibev @wjchat Yes; truer words etc #wjchat

Matt Johnson
@xmatt


6:14 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A7 each site is different, but weve built a suite of tools to accelerate the process #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


6:14 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
MT @ivanlajara A6. Whatever it is, don’t launch site if not ready just because you have a deadline. Shiny cars w/out wheels = blegh. #wjchat

Alley Interactive
@alleydev


6:14 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@potatomaster @wjchat OMG truth. That’s the worst part of any new design rollout – to get the calls that it’s not working! #wjchat

Lici Beveridge
@LiciBev


6:14 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
A7: We take everything, if we can, and map URLs too. Some legacy systems are not cooperative though. #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


6:14 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @ivanlajara: @wjchat A6. Whatever it is, don’t launch site if not ready just because you have a deadline. Shiny cars without wheels are

Matthew Delman
@mattdelman


6:14 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A7 migrations are a great opportunity to clean up your archives and fix any content issues, like tagging for instance #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


6:15 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A7. EVERYTHING that’s part of record has to move or be archived. Also, please please please redirect from old links. #wjchat

Ivan Lajara
@ivanlajara


6:15 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A7: Ditch anything running on Flash and/or isn’t mobile friendly. Keep the things that are signature to your brand #wjchat

Emma Carew Grovum
@emmacarew


6:15 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A7 dont just migrate, also improve #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


6:15 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @potatomaster @wjchat A7 dont just migrate, also improve #wjchat

Alley Interactive
@alleydev


6:16 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
A7. THAT INCLUDES VIDEOS TOO. #wjchat

Ivan Lajara
@ivanlajara


6:16 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A7 Migration can be complex. Important to build software that can re-run & modify your migration so you can test & fix often #wjchat

Matt Johnson
@xmatt


6:17 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat, I hate to leave you, but I must go to dinner with the lovely @lauraelizdavis. Transcripts may be fixed. Will find out soon! #wjchat

P. Kim Bui
@kimbui


6:17 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A7 In dev lingo this is sometimes called “idempotent”. It’s a great word and I advocate its use. #wjchat

Matt Johnson
@xmatt


6:17 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Hey @cfrech! Any thoughts on tonight’s #wjchat on news site design?

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


6:17 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@xmatt @wjchat very important, yes. You should be migrating through the rebuild and constantly reviewing/improving #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


6:18 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Or at least waybackmachine it http://t.co/TahYwBJLHg #wjchat

Ivan Lajara
@ivanlajara


6:18 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A7: Just to reiterate importance of redirects. Big SEO implications here. 301 is your friend. http://t.co/8hiYIY2Bnb #wjchat

Casey Frechette
@cfrech


6:18 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@potatomaster @xmatt @wjchat in that like in batches or post by post? #n00b #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


6:18 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@xmatt @wjchat its important to see what your real content looks on the new design early in the process. #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


6:19 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@xmatt @wjchat designers design to be perfect, not realistic. Real world headline length is often overlooked, for instance #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


6:19 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Hah. RT @ivanlajara Or at least waybackmachine it http://t.co/GHxRYPt8mE #wjchat

Alley Interactive
@alleydev


6:19 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@chenkx @wjchat Depends on the system but we usually run our scripts in batches & maintain association with old site id key to patch #wjchat

Matt Johnson
@xmatt


6:19 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat that went way too fast! I’m so glad to be back. #wjchat

Lici Beveridge
@LiciBev


6:19 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @potatomaster: @xmatt @wjchat its important to see what your real content looks on the new design early in the process. #wjchat

Emma Carew Grovum
@emmacarew


6:19 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@chenkx @xmatt @wjchat usually post by post, in batches :) #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


6:20 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@potatomaster @wjchat You mean we can’t just tell editorial to make all headlines 60 chars or fewer? Pfft. #wjchat

Matt Johnson
@xmatt


6:20 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
.@cfrech @wjchat Google gives you a bit of a grace period, in case you launch and it’s all wrong. #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


6:20 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Q9 What sets “platishers” like @Buzzfeed and Voxdotcom apart from publishers who use open-source CMSes? #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


6:21 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat +1 to this> Gotta prioritize, set min viable product & push MT @potatomaster: designers design to be perfect, not realistic. #wjchat

Emma Carew Grovum
@emmacarew


6:21 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
.@xmatt @potatomaster @wjchat the funny thing is how many journalists agree to that because they like the design! #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


6:21 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@netaustin @wjchat Interesting do you know how long, roughly? #wjchat

Casey Frechette
@cfrech


6:22 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat Q9 What sets “platishers” like @Buzzfeed and Voxdotcom apart from publishers who use open-source CMSes? #wjchat

Alley Interactive
@alleydev


6:22 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
.@cfrech @wjchat I think it’s a couple weeks, but I’m not sure. #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


6:23 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: Q3: What are things to consider before you decide to redesign, rebuild and relaunch a huge news site? #wjchat

Harjiv Singh
@harjivsingh


6:23 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A9 Depends on how the open source CMS is used. Big opportunities for customization, but not a guarantee theyre seized. #wjchat

Casey Frechette
@cfrech


6:23 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A9: With Vox and Buzzfeed, I’m impressed with how well integrated the tech side is with editorial and biz needs #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


6:23 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@LiciBev @wjchat @ivanlajara @alexlaughs EXCUSE ME http://t.co/SRKEbzKbT0 #wjchat

Digital First cat
@DFNewsCat


6:24 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: Q9 What sets “platishers” like @Buzzfeed and Voxdotcom apart from publishers who use open-source CMSes? #wjchat

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


6:24 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @cfrech: @wjchat A9 Depends on how the open source CMS is used. Big opportunities for customization, but not a guarantee theyre seized.

wjchat
@wjchat


6:24 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Q9 Platishers (Platform + Publisher) are just Publishers with a massive depreciating asset instead of a open, flexible system. #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


6:25 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @netaustin: Q9 Platishers (Platform + Publisher) are just Publishers with a massive depreciating asset instead of a open, flexible syste

wjchat
@wjchat


6:25 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@chenkx @wjchat Good example of this is Buzzfeeds integrated mobile previewer tool. #wjchat

Casey Frechette
@cfrech


6:26 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@chenkx @wjchat That’s inherent to their model tho isn’t it? Legacy orgs have harder time adopting since it’s not in their DNA. #wjchat

Julia B. Chan
@juliachanb


6:26 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
MT @netaustin Q9 Platishers (Platform + Publisher) =Publishers with a massive depreciating asset instead of a open, flexible system. #wjchat

Alley Interactive
@alleydev


6:26 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Last question of the night, folks! … #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


6:26 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
A9. Stop trying to make “platisher” happen. http://t.co/6Gv0VpYe4f #wjchat

Ivan Lajara
@ivanlajara


6:26 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
.@cfrech @chenkx @wjchat possible in an open-source system too. That’s a bonus, not a core feature. #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


6:26 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
STAHP. RT @ivanlajara: A9. Stop trying to make “platisher” happen. http://t.co/7o5b5PGatO #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


6:26 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@ivanlajara im not a fan of the word either #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


6:27 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@ivanlajara though “platisher” always makes me think of a platypus #wjchat

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


6:27 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
One thing these brands do which is hard for anyone, and rarely performant, is integrate reader/community features into the CMS. #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


6:27 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @netaustin: One thing these brands do which is hard for anyone, and rarely performant, is integrate reader/community features into the C

wjchat
@wjchat


6:28 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
A9. But in seriousness, if only news CMSs were as easy to write in that anyone can use it. Let’s start there. #wjchat

Ivan Lajara
@ivanlajara


6:28 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
.@potatomaster @ivanlajara Worst. Word. Ever. #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


6:28 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@chenkx @ivanlajara But a platypus who is possibly a fisherman of sorts …. #wjchat

Emma Carew Grovum
@emmacarew


6:28 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@chenkx @ivanlajara We like the way you think. #wjchat

Alley Interactive
@alleydev


6:28 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @ivanlajara: A9. But in seriousness, if only news CMSs were as easy to write in that anyone can use it. Let’s start there. #wjchat

Emma Carew Grovum
@emmacarew


6:28 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
No chill. LOL! RT @ivanlajara: A9. Stop trying to make “platisher” happen. http://t.co/5BUUwKDGOr #wjchat

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


6:29 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Q10 What’s a smaller newsroom with limited resources to do? What are some solutions/alternatives to a *complete* relaunch? #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


6:29 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@netaustin @potatomaster @ivanlajara I only recently learned about that word. When I did, I cried. #wjchat

Gene Park
@GenePark


6:29 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Hey @trisloth @cjcsuhta @danielboggs great convo on redesigns happening at #wjchat. You guys should join.

Ashley Lusk
@arlusk


6:29 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@ivanlajara What do you see as the top usage challenges? #wjchat

Casey Frechette
@cfrech


6:30 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat an outside agency can be really helpful with a smaller newsroom in providing experience and resources they dont have #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


6:30 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@netaustin @wjchat platyshers? #wjchat http://t.co/bffLIWe6LD

Julia B. Chan
@juliachanb


6:33 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: O.O RT @juliachanb: @netaustin @wjchat platyshers? #wjchat http://t.co/daCDWp60yg

Andrea Gillhoolley
@AGillhoolley


6:33 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A10: Re: WordPress, many good resources to ease the migration process, too. http://t.co/82jGxgTlEd http://t.co/BPKsIX9hgl #wjchat

Casey Frechette
@cfrech


6:33 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
.@ivanlajara @cfrech drag and drop is only good for desktop, though! Can’t make mobile-friendly sites that way. #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


6:33 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A10 its important for a small newsroom to be on a good platform so they can focus on producing content and not tech issues #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


6:33 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @potatomaster: @wjchat A10 its important for a small newsroom to be on a good platform so they can focus on producing content and not t

Kelly Chen
@chenkx


6:34 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
That’s all the time we have for tonight, everyone! #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


6:34 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @juliachanb: @netaustin @wjchat platyshers? #wjchat http://t.co/bffLIWe6LD

Samantha Wood
@cornerrobot


6:34 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Thank you @alleydev @netaustin, @xmatt, @potatomaster for hosting #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


6:34 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A10: also w/ CMS, key that it works for the lowest end of tech spectrum, so you don’t waste resources on handholding after #wjchat

Emma Carew Grovum
@emmacarew


6:34 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat A10 even prefab WP theme or Drupal install profile can take a small newsroom far, till it grows enough to need custom design #wjchat

Matt Johnson
@xmatt


6:34 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat Thanks so much for having us! We had a blast #wjchat

Matt Johnson
@xmatt


6:34 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat @alleydev @netaustin @xmatt thanks for having us! #wjchat

potatomaster
@potatomaster


6:35 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
We’re signing off, but feel free to nerd on and keep the convo going #wjchat

wjchat
@wjchat


6:35 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @potatomaster: @wjchat an outside agency can be really helpful with a smaller newsroom in providing experience and resources they dont

Alley Interactive
@alleydev


6:35 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat Thank you @alleydev @netaustin, @xmatt, @potatomaster for hosting #wjchat

Alley Interactive
@alleydev


6:35 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Remember, you can always pitch a host or topic to #wjchat –> http://t.co/c2yew9vVT7

wjchat
@wjchat


6:35 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
.@wjchat @alleydev @xmatt @potatomaster our pleasure. See you soon on a news site near you! #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


6:35 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: O.O RT @juliachanb: @netaustin @wjchat platyshers? #wjchat http://t.co/daCDWp60yg

Paul Greaves
@greavespg


6:35 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@netaustin @cfrech tru dat. Idea moving forward is that the ‘drop’ would be responsive as well. #wjchat isn’t href in iframe responsive?

Ivan Lajara
@ivanlajara


6:36 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Sing it @potatomaster: A10 MT important for small newsroom to be on a good platform ->focus on producing content & not tech issues #wjchat

Samantha Wood
@cornerrobot


6:36 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
BYE #WJCHAT! http://t.co/IWC2ivwvpJ

Digital First cat
@DFNewsCat


6:37 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
.@cornerrobot @potatomaster and a good web host too. We suggest @getpantheon #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


6:37 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@ivanlajara @netaustin http://t.co/2YNSsvhmfZ #wjchat

Casey Frechette
@cfrech


6:38 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat Thanks everyone. And drive safe #wjchat http://t.co/oy3IB2RE5u

Gene Park
@GenePark


6:39 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@cfrech @netaustin As a noncoder, I usually just grab a URL, (like http://t.co/XNgpyFIcpw) and size the window up and down. #wjchat

Ivan Lajara
@ivanlajara


6:40 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
My cat says goodbye, too. Still a print consumer, though. #wjchat http://t.co/PTx9n1802N

Austin Smith
@netaustin


6:41 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Great chat tonight, #wjchat!!!

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


6:42 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@ShaunaReporter Thank you! Thanks for being a part. #wjchat

Alley Interactive
@alleydev


6:43 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @potatomaster: @wjchat A10 its important for a small newsroom to be on a good platform so they can focus on producing content and not t

Robert Moran
@RMoranABC


6:43 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
.@cfrech @ivanlajara we sometimes break that though, esp. for advertising. Better to use the emulator feature in Chrome. #wjchat

Austin Smith
@netaustin


6:43 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @cfrech: @ivanlajara @netaustin http://t.co/2YNSsvhmfZ #wjchat

Salem
@Salem_Solomon


6:44 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@wjchat enjoyed catching up with ya’ll (sorta) #wjchat

Susanna Speier
@SusannaSpeier


6:44 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@netaustin @cfrech I’ve seen many a responsive thing broken by ads, because banners WHY #wjchat

Ivan Lajara
@ivanlajara


6:56 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
@alleydev you are so welcome! #wjchat

Shauna Stuart
@ShaunaReporter


7:01 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @netaustin: Side note, journalists have to self advocate. Business won’t build you the workflow you need #wjchat

Amanda Shareghi
@shreggers


7:10 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @emmacarew: @wjchat A4: start with a pre-emptive run to the liquor store, obviously. #wjchat

Amanda Shareghi
@shreggers


7:14 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: And snacks. RT @emmacarew: @wjchat A4: start with a pre-emptive run to the liquor store, obviously. #wjchat

Amanda Shareghi
@shreggers


7:14 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
RT @wjchat: Q9 What sets “platishers” like @Buzzfeed and Voxdotcom apart from publishers who use open-source CMSes? #wjchat

Amanda Shareghi
@shreggers


7:15 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
.@emmacarew @wjchat favorite line of the night. #wjchat

Amanda Shareghi
@shreggers


8:16 p.m. PDT | 06.04.2014
Great for mobile users. MT .@wjchat continuous scrolling is a big one, especially for the @latimes revamp. #wjchat

JohnAdams LATimes
@JohnAdamsLAT


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