- 2011-09-01T00:00:02Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- It’s 5 in the west, 8 in the east. It’s Wed. night so it’s time for #wjchat the weekly chat for web journos and those who love them #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:00:24Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- @writerly_dee Dee, not 30 minutes – #wjchat starts NOW! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:00:37Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Welcome to the 80th episode of #wjchat, a weekly discussion for Web journalists. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:00:57Z
- writerly_dee (Deanna Cheng)
- RT @wjchat: @writerly_dee Dee, not 30 minutes – #wjchat starts NOW! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:01:09Z
- writerly_dee (Deanna Cheng)
- RT @wjchat: Welcome to the 80th episode of #wjchat, a weekly discussion for Web journalists. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:01:10Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Tonight we’re talking about Design and UI w host Steve Dorsey / @dorsey Detroit Media VP/r+d; SND.org president. Say Hi #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:01:16Z
- writerly_dee (Deanna Cheng)
- RT @wjchat: Tonight we’re talking about Design and UI w host Steve Dorsey / @dorsey Detroit Media VP/r+d; SND.org president. Say Hi #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:01:17Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Hey @suzanneyada, @acnatta, @writerly_dee, @ohmgee … welcome to #wjchat. Glad you’re here with me :)
#wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:01:20Z
- suzanneyada (Suzanne Yada)
- FYI, tonight’s chat is on The Importance of Good Design/UI w @SND president Steve @Dorsey. Should be great! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:01:27Z
- SNDSTL (SND STL)
- Come bow to @SND’s overlord! RT @wjchat: The excitement builds, 10 minutes until #wjchat with @dorsey The Importance of Good Design/UI
- 2011-09-01T00:01:56Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Let’s kick this pig! Introduce yourself, respond to questions and share your knowledge! Thanks for joining tonight’s #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:02:18Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- MT @SNDSTL: Come bow to @SNDs overlord! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:02:46Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Wow. The SNDSTL weather bird is here too? #honored #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:02:49Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- @Dorsey please introduce yourself, every one, please introduce yourselves. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:02:56Z
- j_nb (Jessica Binsch)
- RT @suzanneyada FYI, tonight’s chat is on The Importance of Good Design/UI w @SND president Steve @Dorsey. Should be great! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:03:11Z
- suzanneyada (Suzanne Yada)
- Hi all, I’m Suzanne Yada, web producer for @cironline (& @californiawatch). Print design bkgd, web design present. :) #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:03:14Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Working behind the #wjchat curtain tonight is @henrymlopez from Santa Fe, NM. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:03:40Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @suzanneyada: Hi all, Im Suzanne Yada, web producer for @cironline (& @californiawatch). Print design bkgd, web design present :) #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:04:12Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Hello, everyone. Very excited to be here with you tonight. Lots of great Qs coming up (and I hear there’s a surprise later?)
#wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:05:20Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @wjchat @dorsey #wjchat Miranda Mulligan, Boston Globe tuning in…
- 2011-09-01T00:05:33Z
- ebonymarieb (Ebony Bailey)
- @wjchat Ebony. Journo student at USC. I’ll be in and out tonight. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:05:42Z
- suzanneyada (Suzanne Yada)
- Holy crap, I totally forgot about my @suzanneyadachat alter ego. All y’all don’t have to unfollow me! Headed there now. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:05:53Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Welcome, we’re honored. RT @mirandamulligan: @wjchat @dorsey #wjchat Miranda Mulligan, Boston Globe tuning in… #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:06:13Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Good to see you back RT @ebonymarieb: @wjchat Ebony. Journo student at USC. Ill be in and out tonight. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:06:31Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- @ebonymarieb Are you one of @webjournalist students?
#wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:06:43Z
- MegsLeigh (Megan Lavey-Heaton)
- Megan Lavey-Heaton from The Patriot-News outside Harrisburg, Pa. Print background, but Jack of all trades #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:06:46Z
- acnatta (André Natta)
- Andre Natta, stationmaster of @bhamterminal in Birmingham, AL checking in – how’s it going #wjchat?
- 2011-09-01T00:07:07Z
- Journerdism (Will Sullivan)
- Guys, guys, GUYS! “Lucasfilm Confirms Change to Blu-ray Release of ‘Return of the Jedi’” http://t.co/lAOtPju #wjchat http://t.co/oymenYL
- 2011-09-01T00:07:09Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @MegsLeigh: Megan Lavey-Heaton from The Patriot-News outside Harrisburg, Pa. Print background, but Jack of all trades #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:07:26Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- OK. That’s better. Using another handle to be less annoying to my other followers. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:07:27Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Stationmaster? RT @acnatta: Andre Natta, stationmaster of @bhamterminal in Birmingham, AL checking in – hows it going #wjchat? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:07:31Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- As a test, we’re also doing a parallel #wjchat here: http://t.co/kN7Uhm8
- 2011-09-01T00:07:32Z
- TylerMachado (Tyler Machado)
- #wjchat, Tyler Machado, web guy at @Seven_Days in Burlington, Vermont here…I’ll be in and out as well.
- 2011-09-01T00:08:07Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- So, just annoying to us??? RT @SuzanneYadaChat: OK. Thats better. Using another handle to be less annoying to my other followers. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:08:14Z
- j_nb (Jessica Binsch)
- @wjchat Hi all, Jessica here, web editor and total design newbie ;) hope to learn lots! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:08:16Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Howdy RT @TylerMachado: #wjchat, Tyler Machado, web guy at @Seven_Days in Burlington, Vermont here…Ill be in and out as well. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:08:24Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @wjchat Hi!I’m Mike. I’m a Web producer/blogger for KPCC public radio. And I’ve got a headache, so, slightly weirder than normal. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:08:25Z
- jenleereeves (Jen Lee Reeves)
- Join us at #wjchat channel. We’re now following and discussing #wjchat hashtag here: http://t.co/6VcqZed
- 2011-09-01T00:08:52Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- Ooh…I’m #wjchat-ing in @rolljoint tonight! Room is here if you want to try it out: http://t.co/5vlDblA
- 2011-09-01T00:08:55Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Hi all… I’m Robert Hernandez, Web journalist, Profe @USCAnnenberg, @ONA board member and #wjchat co-creator. Good to see y’all!
- 2011-09-01T00:08:58Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- OKay, we’re going to hold a lightning round for @Dorsey in two minutes. These Qs are for him to familiarize yourself with him fast. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:09:11Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @MikeRoe: Hi!Im Mike. Im a Web producer/blogger for KPCC public radio. And Ive got a headache, so, slightly weirder than normal. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:09:12Z
- acnatta (André Natta)
- @wjchat yep. part editor, part community manager. part Yankees/Red Sox game follower ;) #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:09:17Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- YES. RT @wjchat: So, just annoying to us? RT @SuzanneYadaChat Using another handle to be less annoying to my other followers. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:09:23Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @verbalcupcake: Ooh…Im #wjchat-ing in @rolljoint tonight! Room is here if you want to try it out: http://t.co/kN7Uhm8 #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:10:02Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- @acnatta I like that. @henrymlopez eventually wants the title ‘shot caller’ on his business cards. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:10:23Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- OK it’s time for @Dorsey Lightning round. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:10:30Z
- Journerdism (Will Sullivan)
- Howdy, #wjchat I’m Will. @sndstl co-director and so much more.
- 2011-09-01T00:10:46Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- LR1 In your user interviews, what was the biggest surprise or myth busted? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:10:51Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- @wjchat Bring it :)
#wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:12:07Z
- ellenlynch (ellenlynch)
- Hi! I’m Ellen, former print designer, now focusing on web. First time joining the #wjchat to see what @dorsey has to say.
- 2011-09-01T00:12:15Z
- MegsLeigh (Megan Lavey-Heaton)
- @mikeroe That explains you, but what about the rest of us? ;) #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:12:17Z
- SNDSTL (SND STL)
- @dorsey The Lou’s own Nelly, of course: http://t.co/XIuSW3H #wjchat It’s getting hot in herre…
- 2011-09-01T00:12:36Z
- printfox8 (print fox)
- Hi! I’m Ellen, former print designer, now focusing on web. First time joining the #wjchat to see what @dorsey has to say.
- 2011-09-01T00:12:41Z
- MegsLeigh (Megan Lavey-Heaton)
- @ellenlynch It’s a lot of fun. I did it for the first time a couple weeks ago. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:13:06Z
- SusannaSpeier (Susanna Speier)
- Hey, I’m Susanna. Freelance & social media strategist & journ. Currently working on Thinking Animals, Exploring Animal Minds & USAA #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:13:33Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- LR1: Probably the single biggest theme that comes up again and again is that you can’t assume or predict readers. 1/3
#wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:13:35Z
- LindaDelaCruz (Linda Dela Cruz)
- Linda Dela Cruz, part-time reporter producer with Clear Channel Radio in Honolulu, open to full-time reporting opportunities #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:13:44Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- @ellenlynch Welcome newbie. We’ll email you the insurance waiver for the #wjchat initiation rituals … #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:14:04Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- LR1: Readers are smart, dynamic, adaptable, very engaged. They always find ways to get what they want most, we have to provide it2/3 #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:14:16Z
- olgakhazan (Olga Khazan)
- #wjchat Olga here – a web designer, Forbes blogger and former USC grad journalism fellow.
- 2011-09-01T00:14:20Z
- SNDSTL (SND STL)
- Awesome to see superstar Jen Lee Reeves in #WJChat, come see her IRL @SNDSTL! http://t.co/ESGS3pU #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:14:28Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @MegsLeigh: @ellenlynch Its a lot of fun. I did it for the first time a couple weeks ago. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:14:31Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @dorsey: LR1: Probably the single biggest theme that comes up again and again is that you cant assume or predict readers. 1/3 #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:14:42Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- LR1: We talked to 65-y.o. “digital natives” and 30-y.o. “traditional” readers. Life stages say more about habits than age per se3/3
#wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:14:54Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @MegsLeigh Lead poisoning? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:15:26Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- MT @dorsey: Readers are smart, dynamic, adaptable engaged. They always find ways to get what they want most, we have to provide it #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:15:37Z
- MegsLeigh (Megan Lavey-Heaton)
- @MikeRoe I find this acceptable. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:15:55Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- MT @dorsey: We talked to 65yo “digital natives” and 30-y.o. “traditional” readers. Life stages say more about habits than age per se #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:16:14Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- LR2 How can we apply those findings to how journalists interact with a community? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:16:39Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- RT @dorsey: LR1: We talked to 65-y.o. “digital natives” and 30-y.o. “traditional” readers. Life stages say more about habits than age per se3/3
#wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:16:50Z
- AssignmentDesk1 (Dorrine Mendoza)
- Excellent LR2 question. #Wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:17:07Z
- SDulai (Shaminder Dulai)
- So wish I could join tonight’s #wjchat about Design/UI w host Steve Dorsey / @dorsey Detroit Media VP/r+d; SND.org pres. I love that guy!
- 2011-09-01T00:17:17Z
- jenleereeves (Jen Lee Reeves)
- @SNDSTL You’re very kind!! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:17:22Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- LR2: For me, ultimately the most important lesson is to always ask, observe and stay in touch with your community 1/2
#wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:17:42Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @dorsey: LR2: For me, ultimately the most important lesson is to always ask, observe and stay in touch with your community 1/2 #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:18:15Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- LR2: … (coverage, customers, users, whatever). They will guide you, but you have to LISTEN. The real trick is acting on that. 2/2 #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:18:54Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @dorsey: (coverage, customers, users, whatever) They will guide you, but you have to LISTEN. The real trick is acting on that. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:19:19Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- LR3 How can we apply the findings to how organizations deliver news to a community? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:19:33Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- @SDulai Aww, much love in the D for you too. Thanks. #wjchat
#wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:20:12Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- LR3: This has been the biggest hurdle to anything we’ve learned. Orgs tend to think they know best, that’s their role so often. 1/2 #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:20:41Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @dorsey: This has been the biggest hurdle to anything weve learned. Orgs tend to think they know best, thats their role so often. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:21:02Z
- SusannaSpeier (Susanna Speier)
- LR3 what should orgs be asking their readers about their design? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:21:04Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- LR3: They need to be open to LISTEN, and then willing to change accordingly to better serve. Ask users, they will tell you 2/2 #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:21:40Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @dorsey: They need to be open to LISTEN, and then willing to change accordingly to better serve. Ask users, they will tell you #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:21:50Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- LR4 Where do you look for (and find) design inspiration? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:22:39Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- LR4: I’m all over. I visit a slew of sites daily, I’ll download any app just to see how it performs, navigates, etc. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:22:59Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- #wjchat Are there any results posted anywhere from @dorsey’s findings? Or was this just an internal thing? http://t.co/Ac7xPEJ
- 2011-09-01T00:23:16Z
- jodiontheweb (Jodi Gersh)
- joining late. Hi! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:23:19Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- LR4: I still get a lot of print, but will compare digital versions too. I look at Wired, the major daily papers, NPR, Guardian, ESPN #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:23:24Z
- saulsugarman (Saul Sugarman)
- Hi #wjchat I’m Saul — law industry writer and recent Twitter junkie.
- 2011-09-01T00:23:59Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- @jodiontheweb Fines will be imposed for tardiness, but it’s all paid in M&M’s so don’t fret #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:24:17Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- Love this: Newsrooms “need to be open to LISTEN, & willing to change accordingly to better serve” audience, says @dorsey. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:24:23Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- LR4: I look at top download app lists and try to gauge what regular people are using and why. Comments sections on apps are rich. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:24:32Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- MT @dorsey: I still get a lot of print, but compare digital versions too. I look at Wired, the major dailies, NPR, Guardian, ESPN #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:24:58Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- MT @dorsey: I look at top download app lists and gauge what regular people are using and why. Comments sections on apps are rich. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:25:02Z
- daboogah (Yasuo)
- RT @LindaDelaCruz: Linda Dela Cruz, part-time reporter producer with Clear Channel Radio in Honolulu, open to full-time reporting opportunities #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:25:06Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- @SuzanneYadaChat Sorry, nothing I can share publicly right now. Lots of internal studies so far. Shared some at NAA this year; ONA #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:25:10Z
- billiegirltoo (billiegirltoo)
- RT @verbalcupcake: Love this: Newsrooms “need to be open to LISTEN, & willing to change accordingly to better serve” audience, says @dorsey. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:25:25Z
- acnatta (André Natta)
- RT @verbalcupcake: Love this: Newsrooms “need to be open to LISTEN, & willing to change accordingly to better serve” audience, says @dorsey. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:25:28Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- LR5 No bullshit: Can anyone be a good designer? What are the qualities of a good designer? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:26:20Z
- rachelbianca (Rachel Hatzipanagos)
- Join us at #wjchat channel. We’re now following and discussing #wjchat hashtag here: http://t.co/L50NtiY
- 2011-09-01T00:26:30Z
- carriecousins (Carrie Cousins)
- LR5: great question! #wjchat http://t.co/92AYd8z
- 2011-09-01T00:27:10Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- LR5: Always said best designers have innate skills that elevate them, but I could teach fundamentals to anyone willing to learn. 1/3 #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:27:53Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- LR5: Best designers understand audience, storytelling, master the tools at their disposal (any platform) so they can focus. 2/3 #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:28:07Z
- ctiedje (Chris Tiedje)
- RT @rachelbianca: Join us at #wjchat channel. We’re now following and discussing #wjchat hashtag here: http://t.co/L50NtiY
- 2011-09-01T00:28:11Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- MT @dorsey: Always said best designers have innate skills that elevate them, but I could teach fundamentals to anyone #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:28:15Z
- carriecousins (Carrie Cousins)
- RT @dorsey: LR5: Best designers understand audience, storytelling, master the tools at their disposal (any platform) so they can focus. 2/3 #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:28:26Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- LR5: Strong type; visual editing + core fundamentals transcend platform: scale, proportion, organization, hierarchy all matter. 3/3 #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:28:27Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @dorsey: Best designers understand audience, storytelling, master the tools at their disposal (any platform) so they can focus #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:28:49Z
- SusannaSpeier (Susanna Speier)
- Join us at #wjchat channel. We’re now following and discussing #wjchat hashtag here: http://t.co/XSrtpZ8
- 2011-09-01T00:29:18Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- MT @dorsey: Strong type; vis editing + core fundamentals transcend platform: scale, proportion, organization, hierarchy all matter. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:29:54Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- LRfinal Many interactive news designs are based on eye-tracking. There’s growing debate on its validity. What’s the real deal? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:30:13Z
- SusannaSpeier (Susanna Speier)
- @wjchat can you join us at #wjchat channel? We’re following and discussing #wjchat hashtag here: http://t.co/XSrtpZ8
- 2011-09-01T00:31:30Z
- SNDSTL (SND STL)
- Joy Mayer (@mayerjoy) has some interesting thoughts about how designers should be user advocates, come learn @SNDSTL! bit.ly/nCCP13 #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:31:43Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- LR6: Analytics, eye tracking, in-depth observation and interviews — we’re all just trying to learn what readers want most. 1/2 #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:32:05Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @dorsey: Analytics, eye tracking, in-depth observation and interviews — were all just trying to learn what readers want most. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:32:27Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- LR6: Truth lies somewhere in the middle of it all. We should use all methods to better understand viewers/readers/users. 2/2 #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:32:51Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @dorsey: Truth lies somewhere in the middle of it all. We should use all methods to better understand viewers/readers/users. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:33:00Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Whew. That lightening round was fun… but, wow #wjchat. :) #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:33:29Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Thank you @dorsey. That concludes the Lightning Round. With that @henrymlopez hands the #wjchat reins to @webjournalist #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:33:43Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Thanks you @jenleereeves we’ve got a #wjchat G+ Hangout going on too! http://t.co/5JB26Mu #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:34:01Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Okay, now it’s time for the general #wjchat Qs… ready everyone? Here goes!
#wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:34:50Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Thanks to @jenleereeves we’ve got a #wjchat G+ Hangout going on too! http://t.co/5JB26Mu
- 2011-09-01T00:35:25Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Okay, now it’s time for the general #wjchat Qs… ready everyone? Here goes!
- 2011-09-01T00:35:34Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @jenleereeves I’d do the Hangout, but this headache would mean it would just be me making angrysad faces. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:35:36Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Holy multi-tasking wow. :) #wjchat G+ Hangout going on too! http://t.co/jJ38jEp #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:35:56Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q1 Define good design. What do you mean when you talk about design? Is there a “right” definition? What is it? #wjchat http://t.co/kN7Uhm8
- 2011-09-01T00:36:40Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Q1 Define good design. What do you mean when you talk about design? Is there a “right” definition? What is it? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:37:06Z
- MegsLeigh (Megan Lavey-Heaton)
- Q1: Good design is something that engages and informs the reader. It’s understanding what info they want to know & how to convey it #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:37:37Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @wjchat Whatever the opposite of most local media sites is. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:37:38Z
- saulsugarman (Saul Sugarman)
- A1: A good design starts with a white background, black text. Use one of the five standard fonts in a good size, too. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:37:56Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- #wjchat Q1 To me good design is about clarity & communication. It has a function more than aesthetics. http://t.co/Ac7xPEJ
- 2011-09-01T00:38:12Z
- acnatta (André Natta)
- Join us at #wjchat channel. We’re now following and discussing #wjchat hashtag here: http://t.co/xRmWMm7
- 2011-09-01T00:38:12Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @wjchat Q1 The classic answer is… Good design is not really scene. It enhances the content and makes functionality feel natural. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:38:30Z
- acnatta (André Natta)
- RT @SuzanneYadaChat: #wjchat Q1 To me good design is about clarity & communication. It has a function more than aesthetics. http://t.co/Ac7xPEJ
- 2011-09-01T00:38:43Z
- AssignmentDesk1 (Dorrine Mendoza)
- Q1 Good design communicates your individuality, makes viewers feel comfortable or at ease and is easy to understand. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:38:49Z
- WrightScribe (Tommy Wright)
- Good design’s are ones that don’t hurt my brain. #GettingTechnical #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:38:58Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- Um, no. RT @saulsugarman A1: A good design starts with a white bkgd, black text. Use 1 of the 5 standard fonts in a good size, too. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:39:03Z
- ebonymarieb (Ebony Bailey)
- @wjchat A1 Good design is clean, simple, easy to use, engaging, natural. There is no “right” to design, but there is “good design.” #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:39:08Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @webjournalist Wondering whether that “scene” was autocorrect, wordplay, or Freudian. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:39:09Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Q1: “Design” has become so laden: UX, UI, IA, IXD — ultimately it all must work together seamlessly to better the delivery, exp #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:39:39Z
- TylerMachado (Tyler Machado)
- @wjchat I think function and aesthetics should be treated roughly equally. Tough to succeed without both. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:39:42Z
- acnatta (André Natta)
- Q1 Good design means you aren’t necessarily complaining about how to use it #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:39:54Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Ugh. Yes… autocorrect That’s it. RT @MikeRoe: @webjournalist Wondering whether that “scene” was autocorrect, wordplay, or Freudian #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:40:04Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @wjchat A1 Design is not just layout, the end result or the final result. Its the process/means/decisions we make to get to the end. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:40:04Z
- rachelbianca (Rachel Hatzipanagos)
- Simplicity, readability #wjchat http://t.co/L50NtiY
- 2011-09-01T00:40:05Z
- Journerdism (Will Sullivan)
- Wow. too much with #wjchat and google hangout going at same time.
- 2011-09-01T00:40:24Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Q1: Good design should enhance the message, content or experience, not decorate or overwhelm it… #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:40:33Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @webjournalist (I like providing multiple escape options. Like a Mission: Impossible movie.) #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:40:48Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q1B Are user experience (UX), user interface (UI), information architecture (IA), and information design (IXD) the same? Define? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:40:48Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- RT @dorsey: Q1: Good design should enhance the message, content or experience, not decorate or overwhelm it… #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:41:13Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Q1: Good design should add surprise, delight and value to whatever the user/reader expected. It should anticipate needs, meet them #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:41:39Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- MT @wjchat Q1B Are user experience (UX), user interface (UI), information architecture (IA), & information design (IXD) same? Define #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:42:02Z
- SuziVans (Suzi V)
- RT @journtoolbox: Here’s a handy tool: NY Magazine’s Encyclopedia of 9/11: http://t.co/HifsPZy #remembering911 #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:42:07Z
- AssignmentDesk1 (Dorrine Mendoza)
- MT @mirandamulligan: A1 Design not just layout, the end or final result. Its the process/means/decisions we make to get to the end. #Wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:42:09Z
- WrightScribe (Tommy Wright)
- @suzanneyada You gave in to the terrorists by switching to @SuzanneYadaChat for #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:42:54Z
- AssignmentDesk1 (Dorrine Mendoza)
- MT @dorsey: Q1: Good design should add surprise, delight & value to what user/reader expected. It should anticipate needs, meet them #Wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:43:01Z
- saulsugarman (Saul Sugarman)
- @SuzanneYadaChat Doesn’t mean the whole site has to be black text / white back, but lots of studies support it. http://t.co/dYzoUVs #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:43:04Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @wjchat Q1B Essentially, they are all different aspects of design, taking on different responsibilities. But all important. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:43:40Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- Q1B: UX, UI, ID, etc, are not same as design. You can design in print, but UI is a different dimension #wjchat http://t.co/Ac7xPEJ
- 2011-09-01T00:43:48Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Q1B: UX, UI, IA, IXD should all be diff disciplines aimed at a common goal — spokes of the same wheel leveraging a unified mission #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:43:49Z
- michelleminkoff (Michelle Minkoff)
- RT @mirandamulligan: @wjchat A1 Design is not just layout, the end result or the final result. Its the process/means/decisions we make to get to the end. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:43:49Z
- HollyTMoore (Holly Taylor Moore)
- Following bright web-journo conversation at #wjchat channel. http://t.co/pyw1OEC
- 2011-09-01T00:44:57Z
- olgakhazan (Olga Khazan)
- #wjchat Q1B UX=how user feels about interacting, UI=how user actually interacts, IA=literally how site is structured http://t.co/u8JmxLh
- 2011-09-01T00:45:11Z
- michelleminkoff (Michelle Minkoff)
- Whoa, there’s a design #wjchat happening now! And I almost missed! (Hi, I’m newly doing data/design/web/prog stuff for @AP in DC.) #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:45:50Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- +1 MT @dorsey: Q1B: UX, UI, IA, IXD should all be diff disciplines aimed at a common goal — spokes of the same wheel … #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:45:52Z
- Journerdism (Will Sullivan)
- #wjchat Put this in your UX / UI pipe discussion and smoke it. http://t.co/3ZpoDKH
- 2011-09-01T00:46:26Z
- michelleminkoff (Michelle Minkoff)
- UX, UI, IA, IXD are on a different level than static design, there’s more to it. But all involve some level of common sense. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:46:27Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @Journerdism: #wjchat Put this in your UX / UI pipe discussion and smoke it. http://t.co/CyVOxCk
- 2011-09-01T00:46:38Z
- ebonymarieb (Ebony Bailey)
- @wjchat A1B Nah, but they all have to do with design. To me UI is pretty much what causes UX. Gotta learn more about the other two. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:46:57Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q1C Why do they matter in journalism? What’s so bad about the way we’ve always presented news/information? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:47:12Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Q1C Why do they matter in journalism? What’s so bad about the way we’ve always presented news/information? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:47:31Z
- jenleereeves (Jen Lee Reeves)
- NICE RT @wjchat: RT @Journerdism: #wjchat Put this in your UX / UI pipe discussion and smoke it. http://t.co/aROaO4v
- 2011-09-01T00:47:48Z
- DarcieMeihoff (DarcieMeihoff)
- Best user design follows basic rule: understanding and knowing how the audience uses, consumes and interacts with content #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:47:49Z
- jenleereeves (Jen Lee Reeves)
- @MikeRoe Boooo!! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:48:19Z
- MegsLeigh (Megan Lavey-Heaton)
- Q1C: It’s not necessarily bad, but it’s not the same as picking up a magazine or going to certain websites either. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:48:19Z
- jenleereeves (Jen Lee Reeves)
- We still have room in the #wjchat hangout! RT @wjchat Thanks to @jenleereeves 51 we’ve got a #wjchat G+ Hangout going on too! bit.ly/pOVlAj
- 2011-09-01T00:48:37Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @wjchat Q1C We want people to naturally, quickly interact with our content and products, right? It removes barriers to enter/engage. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:48:38Z
- ellenlynch (ellenlynch)
- Q1B: UX, UI, IA, IXD are different, but a good web designer is familiar with their principles because can develop better websites #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:48:50Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Q1C: So much of what we’ve done in journalism UI/UX is based on only risking as much as the other person proved to work… #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:49:22Z
- MegsLeigh (Megan Lavey-Heaton)
- Q1C (cont): News design has and does evolve with the times. As people get busier, they expect to get more at a small glance. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:49:23Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @wjchat A1C We never had real time data telling us what truly gets people’s attention vs. what they say they want before ‘clicks’ #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:49:23Z
- ebonymarieb (Ebony Bailey)
- @wjchat A1C The way we see news online should not be the same as how we see it on print. Most news orgs still don’t get that.. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:49:27Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- (Uh-oh. I’m looking over my shoulder in case ol’ WenaIway gets wind of this chat.) #wjchat http://t.co/Ac7xPEJ
- 2011-09-01T00:49:27Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @wjchat Q1C Online news design has often been bad. We’re trying to give people more content now. And print design doesn’t translate. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:49:36Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Q1C: … Sadly, is about what’s good or easy for the organizations and NOT what’s preferred or best for the end user IMHO #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:50:29Z
- ebonymarieb (Ebony Bailey)
- @wjchat A1C again. Matters because we want readers to quickly consume news and want to come back for more #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:50:33Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- @ebonymarieb : Exactly, that too. So much of what we’ve done in any new system has been about recreating print (or the old system). #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:50:47Z
- AssignmentDesk1 (Dorrine Mendoza)
- A1c Presenting (design) and getting people to buy/read/watch the news have always been part of journalism. #Wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:51:10Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Two minutes until Q2! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:51:46Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @dorsey We do have to strike that business vs. content balance, right?… We’ll get there. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:51:50Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- Q1C I think many newsrooms don’t think to ask a potential audience or do any testing on design #wjchat http://t.co/Ac7xPEJ
- 2011-09-01T00:52:21Z
- saulsugarman (Saul Sugarman)
- Agreed. MT @AssignmentDesk1 A1C: Presenting and getting people to buy/read/watch the news have always been part of journalism. #Wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:52:31Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- REMINDER: Message @wjchat (w/o the hashtag #wjchat) if you have Qs you want to ask the group. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:52:35Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- I’m late, I’m late. Helloo friends #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:52:36Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- @AssignmentDesk1 Right, but shouldn’t it ALSO be about providing info people want, anticipating needs, making it easier?
#wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:52:57Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- TIP: Please start you answer/reply with @wjchat to spare non- #wjchat followers. And tell friends about http://t.co/5pOTvZB
- 2011-09-01T00:53:06Z
- CreativeCommBot (Creative Comm Bot)
- RT @SuzanneYadaChat #wjchat Q1 To me good design is about clarity & communication. It has a function more than aesthetics. http://t.c…
- 2011-09-01T00:53:11Z
- ccruz (Claudia Cruz)
- @wjchat #Q1C it doesn’t work around the info actually works the other way around, “looks nice” and the info has to fit #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:53:41Z
- losama (Lori Santa Maria)
- Hanging out with some cool folks during the #wjchat on Google+
- 2011-09-01T00:53:59Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- LATE NOTE TO FOLLOWERS: Like nearly every Wednesday at 5PM PST, I’m participating in #wjchat Join us or muuter.com me. Temporarily, right?
- 2011-09-01T00:54:03Z
- AssignmentDesk1 (Dorrine Mendoza)
- @dorsey Yes, it always has been. People’s wants haven’t changed that much in essence. How they get it has changed dramatically. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:54:10Z
- SusannaSpeier (Susanna Speier)
- @wjchat @Dorsey any thoughts on the book “Ordering Disorder” where good web design is all based on the grid principle? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:54:11Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Important to note that “design” hasn’t always been an inherent part of equation — only really held seat at the table for 30+ years. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:54:29Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q2 Are you/your news org training/using HTML5? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:54:48Z
- AssignmentDesk1 (Dorrine Mendoza)
- @webjournalist Warning: Muter.com doesn’t always restore your settings. I am still trying to get back accounts I muted. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:54:59Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- Q1C: What’s so bad about how news orgs have presented info before? ALL info on home page. #worddump #myeyesmyeyes #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:55:09Z
- MegsLeigh (Megan Lavey-Heaton)
- Q2: No, not among the print design staff. We’re doing good to do basic updates to our website. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:55:27Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Oh sh*t! MT @AssignmentDesk1: Warning: Muter.com doesn’t always restore your settings. I am still trying to get back accts I muted. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:55:50Z
- ReachAngi (Angi Carter)
- RT @wjchat: Q2 Are you/your news org training/using HTML5? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:55:57Z
- ccruz (Claudia Cruz)
- @wjchat #html5 at some level because our CMS #Newscoop benefits that option-still not being used to its full potential #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:56:12Z
- acnatta (André Natta)
- Q2 trying to start learning it. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:56:18Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- @SusannaSpeier We should talk more about that (too many threads here)… but I’m a huge fan/advocate of grids in all platforms #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:56:36Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- Not learning HTML5 yet. But been playing around with @mobify for making my site mobile-friendly. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:56:48Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @wjchat A2 Yes we are. HTML5, CSS3 and lots and lots of javascript. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:56:55Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @wjchat Q2 I haven’t jumped into HTML5 yet… know some basics, but learning/mastering it is at the top of my list. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:57:01Z
- AndersonGL (Gary Anderson)
- RT @verbalcupcake: Not learning HTML5 yet. But been playing around with @mobify for making my site mobile-friendly. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:57:08Z
- kyleykim (Kyle Kim)
- RT @wjchat: MT @dorsey: Readers are smart, dynamic, adaptable engaged. They always find ways to get what they want most, we have to provide it #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:57:10Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- I took an HTML5 class which mostly taught me that it’s too soon to use HTML5 to its full potential. #wjchat http://t.co/Ac7xPEJ
- 2011-09-01T00:57:18Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Q2: Yes, we’re very excited to be working on a couple different html5 projects at the moment. Always wish it was bigger, faster… #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:57:37Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- You know who would be better suited to this chat? @sdillingham, our UI man of awesomeness. Ahem. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:57:39Z
- acnatta (André Natta)
- @webjournalist RE: Q2 I figure we’ve got a couple more years before the standards are finally set too #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:57:53Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Agreed. RT @acnatta: @webjournalist RE: Q2 I figure we’ve got a couple more years before the standards are finally set too #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:57:55Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- Q2 implies that newsrooms are set up to implement HTML5 for new cool designs, when most design is pre-templated #wjchat http://t.co/Ac7xPEJ
- 2011-09-01T00:58:07Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Q2: … quite proud of some brand new x-divisional efforts though, and always pressing for more chance to do more, share learnings #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:58:32Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Two minutes until Q3! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:58:36Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- Crap, I mean @seandillingham. He’s way more design-y than me. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T00:58:49Z
- SusannaSpeier (Susanna Speier)
- @webjournalist @wjchat I’m trying to learn HTML5 also. Wanna do a study group? #wjchat #NotJoking
- 2011-09-01T00:59:09Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Q2: Working in a large JOA makes some things difficult, but it also means we have 3x as many smart folks pressing on new tech issues #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:00:18Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @dorsey @SusannaSpeier There are some fabulous reads on grid design from @abookapart. Highly recommended. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:00:34Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q3 What trends do you see changing with readership/viewership preference as the general public moves more toward digital? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:00:37Z
- ebonymarieb (Ebony Bailey)
- @wjchat Q2 no but it would be useful #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:00:57Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Q3 What trends do you see changing w readership/viewership preference as the general public moves more toward digital? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:01:00Z
- AssignmentDesk1 (Dorrine Mendoza)
- @webjournalist I also sent a few emails to their “customer support.” No response. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:01:06Z
- DaniFankhauser (Dani Fankhauser)
- RT @Journerdism: #wjchat Put this in your UX / UI pipe discussion and smoke it. http://t.co/BgQQH5m cc @ghoshal
- 2011-09-01T01:01:14Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @wjchat Q2 A little bit, though there’s some resistance to it, as in “why does this matter?” and so forth. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:02:20Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @wjchat A3 One word on readership preference: Mobile. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:02:25Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- @wjchat at a birthday, checking in on #wjchat as I can!
- 2011-09-01T01:02:39Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- Can you clarify Q3? Not sure what kind of answer it’s aiming for. #wjchat http://t.co/Ac7xPEJ
- 2011-09-01T01:03:08Z
- ccruz (Claudia Cruz)
- @wjchat #Q3 some interest in longer features to be read on tablets 4 xmple #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:03:20Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- (Other than the answer of “mobile,” which was the subject of a recent #wjchat.) http://t.co/Ac7xPEJ
- 2011-09-01T01:03:49Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @wjchat Q3 Longform journalism will struggle more. More multitasking w/ multiple screens/devices. Less acceptance of poor design. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:03:56Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Q3: @mirandamulligan Seconded: MOBILE is #winning.
#wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:04:01Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @wjchat Q3 Small, mobile, ‘touchable’ … we need to do Web/HTML5/JQuery, not native one-off apps per ‘platform’ or OS. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:04:22Z
- lopezreports (ernesto lopez)
- RT @webjournalist: @wjchat Q1 The classic answer is… Good design is not really scene. It enhances the content and makes functionality feel natural. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:04:24Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @AssignmentDesk1 Did you tweet at them? They responded during a #wjchat a few weeks back.
- 2011-09-01T01:04:35Z
- acnatta (André Natta)
- Q3 site visitors will want us to consider the best way to tell the story more than we do now. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:04:48Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @SuzanneYadaChat Disagree… we should be talking mobile all the time right now. #urgency #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:05:14Z
- acnatta (André Natta)
- Q3 They’ll also expect a similar experience across platforms #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:05:26Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Q3: For me the move to mobile/tablet further cements the need to evolve print differently too. Each platform needs to customize more #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:05:45Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- RT @dorsey: Q3: For me the move to mobile/tablet further cements the need to evolve print differently too. Each platform needs to customize more #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:05:49Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- We react too slowly as an industry. We should be talking mobile all the time. MT @Dorsey Q3: Seconded: MOBILE is #winning. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:05:53Z
- OneNewsBlog (OneNews Blog)
- @acnatta And they will want to participate in the telling of that story. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:06:11Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Two minutes until Q4! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:06:14Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- Disagree. Better reader devices means ppl want to deep-dive, ie #longreads. RT @MikeRoe Longform journalism will struggle more. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:06:15Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Agreed: MSM has been slow to EVERYTHING and has been slow to mobile already. #Urgency is critical @mirandamulligan @SuzanneYadaChat #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:06:21Z
- ReachAngi (Angi Carter)
- RT @webjournalist: RT @wjchat: Q3 What trends do you see changing w readership/viewership preference as the general public moves more toward digital? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:06:31Z
- acnatta (André Natta)
- MT @OneNewsBlog: …and they will want to participate in the telling of that story. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:06:45Z
- saulsugarman (Saul Sugarman)
- @dorsey Seems like in journalism, the evolution of print is the tablet. I would say print is done evolving. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:06:46Z
- ghoshal (Bobby Ghoshal)
- RT @DaniFankhauser: RT @Journerdism: #wjchat Put this in your UX / UI pipe discussion and smoke it. http://t.co/BgQQH5m cc @ghoshal
- 2011-09-01T01:07:19Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @SuzanneYadaChat I’m thinking there’s more decline in short term, as nice reader devices (iPad, etc.) still out of reach for many. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:07:41Z
- ccruz (Claudia Cruz)
- @webjournalist #Q3 innovative ways to tell stories, like comic like short films #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:07:43Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- @OneNewsBlog Absolutely agree. We can’t be one-way anymore. Those (bad) days are long gone. Users/readers expect to participate #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:07:51Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @SuzanneYadaChat Slightly longer term, though, totally agree. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:07:55Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- FWIW, I was referring to the phrasing of Q3. If we wanna talk mobile, just say “let’s talk mobile!” :) #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:08:07Z
- acnatta (André Natta)
- @saulsugarman I don’t think print ever evolves, it just adapts. It was supposedly dead w/radio/film/TV as well ;) #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:08:10Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @saulsugarman @dorsey When you stop learning/growing/changing/evolving you die. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:08:32Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q4 How can newsrooms keep giving readers multiple digital alternatives and maintain them all with diminishing workforces? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:08:35Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- @saulsugarman Disagree, we can choose to stop evolving. Or we can adapt to platforms and needs. We can’t single-serve anymore tho #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:09:35Z
- acnatta (André Natta)
- Q4 by realizing they should stop thinking of the outlets as separate islands #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:09:37Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @wjchat Q4: Responsive design, or APIs or a really really smart CMS. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:09:37Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- @mirandamulligan @saulsugarman The dinosaurs stopped evolving… :) #evolveordie #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:09:45Z
- marianliu (marianliu)
- Join us at #wjchat channel. We’re now following and discussing #wjchat hashtag here: http://t.co/T2tv1C3
- 2011-09-01T01:10:04Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Q4 How can newsrooms keep giving readers multiple digital alternatives & maintain them all with diminishing workforces? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:10:05Z
- saulsugarman (Saul Sugarman)
- @dorsey I think every org should adapt to new tech, but I don’t think papers / magazines themselves are going to change anymore. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:10:15Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- Some ppl think the answer to Q4 is just “A Better CMS.” Well, everyone could use a better CMS/mousetrap. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:10:18Z
- ccruz (Claudia Cruz)
- @wjchat joining forces with smaller initiatives which can provide content without representing a direct cost per se? #justathought #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:10:37Z
- acnatta (André Natta)
- Q4 Responsive design will go a long way towards making it easier #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:10:42Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- RT @mirandamulligan: @saulsugarman @dorsey When you stop learning/growing/changing/evolving you die. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:10:42Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @wjchat A4 Everyone should learn to make the internet!!! (steps off soapbox) #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:10:56Z
- rachelbianca (Rachel Hatzipanagos)
- @wjchat More people have to be cross trained to do more things. Also, an intuitive CMS that doesn’t impair breaking news journos #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:11:09Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @wjchat Q4 Smarter tools. People stretched thinner. More knowledge sharing/partnerships. More free workers/interns/volunteers. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:11:34Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Q4 Short answer? They can’t. That’s why hmtl5 is so appealing. And responsive design. Or join larger collectives that manage tech #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:11:35Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @wjchat Q4 Newsrooms need to experiment/iterate but be smart/efficient w what they build. One Web app for all platforms is a start. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:11:45Z
- RobinJP (Robin J Phillips)
- @wjchat missing #wjchat for this. lurking nevertheless. miss y’all. http://t.co/9OazWBX
- 2011-09-01T01:11:49Z
- saulsugarman (Saul Sugarman)
- They can’t. MT @wjchat How can newsrooms keep giving readers multiple digital alternatives with diminishing workforces? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:12:00Z
- DaniFankhauser (Dani Fankhauser)
- RT @dorsey: @OneNewsBlog Absolutely agree. We can’t be one-way anymore. Those (bad) days are long gone. Users/readers expect to participate #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:12:18Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @webjournalist As a user, still not happy with one webapp fits all answers. I find myself on mobile going with apps over webapps. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:12:24Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- OOoohhhh noooo you didn’t, @mikeroe. Opening up a can o worms w/that free workers comment! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:12:37Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @acnatta OOOOOOOOO you said the magic phrase there, sir. #wjchat #rwd
- 2011-09-01T01:13:01Z
- andymboyle (Andy Boyle)
- @mirandamulligan @wjchat AND IF YOU’RE WONDERING HOW TO MAKE THE INTERNET, CLICK HERE: http://t.co/aW3k0I4 #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:13:10Z
- newsiegal (Dana Lynn McIntyre)
- RT @mirandamulligan: @saulsugarman @dorsey When you stop learning/growing/changing/evolving you die. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:13:13Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @SuzanneYadaChat I think it stinks. Just saying it’s what I see actually happening. Wish everyone could get paid what they’re worth. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:13:19Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- @SuzanneYadaChat CMSes are just tools. They can help, certainly, but faith in tools alone is misplaced IMHO #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:13:25Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- What news sites out there have responsive design? Examples? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:13:34Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @MikeRoe I think it’s case by case… and I think native apps are getting more attention then Web apps, affecting quality. #mytheory #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:13:44Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @MikeRoe Gimme some examples. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:14:10Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- @MikeRoe Where *is* that free-workers tree again… ? :) #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:14:16Z
- Fanua (Fanua)
- Oh, a quotable from @suzanneyada @SuzanneYadaChat #wjchat: “A Better CMS.” Well, everyone could use a better CMS/mousetrap.” #journo
- 2011-09-01T01:14:20Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @wjchat RT @andymboyle AND IF YOU’RE WONDERING HOW TO MAKE THE INTERNET, CLICK HERE: bit.ly/n1NVA7 #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:14:24Z
- AssignmentDesk1 (Dorrine Mendoza)
- @saulsugarman @wjchat Agree. They can’t. #Wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:14:24Z
- DaniFankhauser (Dani Fankhauser)
- @wjchat A4 workflow changes, the process of reporting will change to hit multiple platforms #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:14:27Z
- RobinJP (Robin J Phillips)
- RT @saulsugarman: They can’t. MT @wjchat How can newsrooms keep giving readers multiple digital alternatives with diminishing workforces? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:14:50Z
- ebonymarieb (Ebony Bailey)
- @wjchat Web apps are a start. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:15:12Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Two minutes until Q5! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:15:16Z
- AnthonyAdornato (Anthony Adornato)
- Join us at #wjchat channel. We’re now following and discussing #wjchat hashtag here: http://t.co/i7zKWBB
- 2011-09-01T01:15:20Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @dorsey I’ve seen lots of talent serving as interns/volunteers/etc. for no or little money. They won’t do it forever, of course. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:15:24Z
- acnatta (André Natta)
- Q4 it’ll also help when folks stop treating writing for the web and for print as different. A LOT. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:15:27Z
- Rossbeckernews (Ross Becker)
- RT @saulsugarman: They can’t. MT @wjchat How can newsrooms keep giving readers multiple digital alternatives with diminishing workforces? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:15:37Z
- saulsugarman (Saul Sugarman)
- Agreed. RT @dorsey @SuzanneYadaChat CMSes are just tools. They can help, certainly, but faith in tools alone is misplaced IMHO #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:16:26Z
- RamyLoaiza (Ramy Loaiza)
- “@SusannaSpeier: @webjournalist @wjchat I’m trying to learn HTML5 also. Wanna do a study group? #wjchat #NotJoking” // count me in!
- 2011-09-01T01:16:42Z
- acnatta (André Natta)
- @mirandamulligan if you’re saying what I think you’re saying, I’m going to be interested too… #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:16:47Z
- DaniFankhauser (Dani Fankhauser)
- RT @andymboyle: @mirandamulligan @wjchat AND IF YOU’RE WONDERING HOW TO MAKE THE INTERNET, CLICK HERE: http://t.co/aW3k0I4 #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:16:47Z
- rachelbianca (Rachel Hatzipanagos)
- @MikeRoe yeah, there has to be a point where even students have to say enough with unpaid internships…at least for their 2nd round #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:17:15Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- @JasonG01 Won’t ads (eventually — and usually pretty quickly) find their way to wherever the users/viewers are? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:17:50Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- I like the idea. Maybe we do a #wjchat HTML5 study group… we all take W3Schools’ course together. Sounds cool! @RamyLoaiza @SusannaSpeier
- 2011-09-01T01:18:08Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @webjournalist Twitter. Facebook. NYTimes, HuffPost, Politico, heck most news apps. Just feels more responsive. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:18:09Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q5A How do you design for something new, especially that your audience/community may not have used yet? e.g. Tablets. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:18:24Z
- acnatta (André Natta)
- @dorsey @JasonG01 I still think it’s going to depend on what other revenue streams are being tapped #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:18:27Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @webjournalist @RamyLoaiza @SusannaSpeier THIS sounds rad. Would love to do this with others. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:19:13Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @MikeRoe There is definitely an advantage for native apps… no doubt. But I think Web apps will improve. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:19:28Z
- saulsugarman (Saul Sugarman)
- @dorsey Not before lots of companies fold because of an ad-based business model / few customers. #wjchat cc: @JasonG01
- 2011-09-01T01:19:34Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Q5A How do you design for something new, especially that your audience/community may not have used yet? e.g. Tablets. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:19:44Z
- yelvington (Steve Yelvington)
- #wjchat If every output channel creates additional work, you’re probably doing it wrong.
- 2011-09-01T01:19:58Z
- marianliu (marianliu)
- @webjournalist -that’s a crazy good idea of a HTML5 study group! will push me to learn it! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:20:10Z
- AssignmentDesk1 (Dorrine Mendoza)
- +1 MT @webjournalist: Maybe we do a #wjchat HTML5 study group we take W3Schools course together. @RamyLoaiza @SusannaSpeier #Wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:20:13Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @webjournalist Agreed. Tech may catch up, make them similar. Of course, there’s also a market reason for mobile makers not to… #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:20:22Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Nice! MT @SuzanneYadaChat: @MikeRoe @webjournalist @RamyLoaiza @SusannaSpeier We meet up on a G+ Hangout & go through it together… #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:20:30Z
- alicetruong (Alice Truong)
- RT @wjchat: Q4 How can newsrooms keep giving readers multiple digital alternatives and maintain them all with diminishing workforces? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:20:34Z
- SusannaSpeier (Susanna Speier)
- @wjchat OMG…a study group with three of my fav tweeps?!! @MikeRoe @webjournalist @RamyLoaiza #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:20:35Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @rachelbianca Would be great if the market/industry could get to the point to make this easier. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:21:00Z
- saulsugarman (Saul Sugarman)
- @wjchat A5A: I would start with thinking about my own preferred way of consuming media on said new device. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:21:04Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @wjchat A5 IMHO, best approach to new is quick, rapid iterations that responds to how people are using the device. #wjchat #WeReactTooSlowly
- 2011-09-01T01:21:10Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Q5A: I think it’s important to get out there, on the device. Learn-modify-repeat. Be ready with a better XP when users arrive. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:21:36Z
- TylerMachado (Tyler Machado)
- @wjchat That’s a good problem to have! Just try new and different things and see what sticks. Don’t fear failure. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:21:37Z
- SusannaSpeier (Susanna Speier)
- @wjchat We’ll somehow manage to get work done, right? #NotKidding @MikeRoe @webjournalist @RamyLoaiza #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:21:43Z
- yelvington (Steve Yelvington)
- #wjchat Obsess about your data + metadata. Get that right and derivative products get much easier.
- 2011-09-01T01:21:50Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Q5A: Not saying we’ve always managed to do this but we try, and we advocate, etc. It also means running down some dead-ends too #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:22:02Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @wjchat Q5A You have to make educated guesses… you have to base some of the design on existing experiences… you have to (1/2) #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:22:04Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @dorsey A5 What @dorsey said. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:22:37Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @wjchat Q5A User testing. Smart designers and programmers. Constant improvement. Imagination. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:22:42Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Q5A: @yelvington Agreed. Exactly, you have to have the foundation to build on — and that’s data and content and structure. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:22:59Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @SusannaSpeier @wjchat @webjournalist @RamyLoaiza Maybe? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:23:00Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @wjchat Q5A also take advantage of the platform you are designing for, like mobile, desktop, print, etc. But know your users! (2/2) #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:23:42Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- (Q5A: Dead-ends can be fun too. Sort of.Constructive anyway. In the same way bad road trips + holiday shifts can bond a team, etc). #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:23:45Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q5B How do you build a business case for it? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:23:47Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @dorsey Iterate. Iterate. Iterate. We can change it!!! Its OK. ;-) #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:23:56Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Q5B How do you build a business case for it? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:24:10Z
- ethpressO (Ethan Gahng)
- RT @wjchat Q5A How do you design for something new, especially that your audience/community may not have used yet? e.g. Tablets. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:24:27Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- We’ve done user testing for relatively cheap. Hard to say no to $20. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:24:32Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @wjchat Q5B Look at the numbers. People are moving to mobile. Do you want to put your resources into ascending or descending tech? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:24:49Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- @mirandamulligan I am in *your* chorus. Iterate. Repeat. Learn. Iterate. Fail. Learn. Repeat… etc. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:25:01Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @wjchat Q5B @mirandamulligan’s ‘we can change it’ response helps make the case… Try it. Be smart about it. Evolve with your users. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:25:26Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Thanks for joining us! RT @OneNewsBlog: Interesting conversation – but the wife is home – I have to run – Thanks #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:25:36Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @mirandamulligan: @dorsey Iterate. Iterate. Iterate. We can change it!!! Its OK. ;-) #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:25:46Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @dorsey Ahhh #TeamDorsey. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:25:47Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @dorsey: @mirandamulligan I am in *your* chorus. Iterate. Repeat. Learn. Iterate. Fail. Learn. Repeat… etc. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:25:54Z
- RamyLoaiza (Ramy Loaiza)
- “@SusannaSpeier: @wjchat Great!!! Surviving the CANVAS tag and the DOM hell would be fun with @MikeRoe @webjournalist @RamyLoaiza #wjchat”
- 2011-09-01T01:26:12Z
- saulsugarman (Saul Sugarman)
- Love it. Totally agree. (If you have the budget.) RT @kimbui We’ve done user testing for relatively cheap. Hard to say no to $20. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:26:35Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Two minutes until Q6! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:26:53Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Q5B “How do you build a business case for it?” Can you really afford NOT to be where your audience/users/readers are? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:27:00Z
- RamyLoaiza (Ramy Loaiza)
- “@SusannaSpeier: @wjchat We’ll somehow manage to get work done, right? #NotKidding @MikeRoe @webjournalist @RamyLoaiza #wjchat” sure thing!
- 2011-09-01T01:27:12Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- @saulsugarman Is your (our) future worth 20 bones? (yes) #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:27:12Z
- ethpressO (Ethan Gahng)
- Q5A There is no answer to that other than pull your hair out :) #wjchat http://t.co/uTsZ3qh
- 2011-09-01T01:27:55Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @saulsugarman I think Verify was what we used. Worked really well. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:27:56Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Q5B “How do you build a business case for it?” How’s your current plan workin’ for ya? Where’s you’re growth strategy? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:28:24Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q6 What role does a reporter play in design, UI and branding? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:28:43Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @wjchat A5B Business case? Very important point. But we react so slowly, we will never be so ahead of a trend we can’t make a case. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:28:44Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- The very best thing about bad times is the freedom to explore potential solutions, fail, learn, re-approach… #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:29:02Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- Q5B You can convince the numbers ppl w/data & case studies. Unfortunately not a lot of room to be the first. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:29:03Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- +1 RT @dorsey Q5B “How do you build a business case for it?” How’s your current plan workin’ for ya? Where’s you’re growth strategy? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:29:10Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Q6 What role does a reporter play in design, UI and branding? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:29:50Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- AMEN RT @dorsey The very best thing about bad times is the freedom to explore potential solutions, fail, learn, re-approach… #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:30:34Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @wjchat Q6 First, know that just because you have an opinion, it’s not at the same level as the designer. Yep, I said it. BUT. (1/2) #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:30:36Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Q6 Reporters and photogs are critical to making the plans work — they are the front line of generating options, elements, pieces… #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:30:55Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- Great Q. Reporters should have a lot of feedback on how their stories look, play & feel. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:30:58Z
- saulsugarman (Saul Sugarman)
- @wjchat A6: A reporter doesn’t. A “producer” does — though I personally think those two worlds should mix more. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:31:21Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @wjchat Q6 BUT also know your perspective is welcomed – despite previous tweet. It’s essential. Just, you’re not THE designer. (2/2) #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:31:34Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @wjchat Q6 Depends on your org. I think more integral if they’re enough of a name that your audience knows them by name. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:32:05Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- Doesn’t mean everything they say goes, but it’s valuable feedback. Designers are like editors in this case. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:32:12Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Q6: Reporters/photogs (producers/eds) have to own the back-end more than they have historically. We’re all “magic night elves” now #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:32:24Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @wjchat A6 Be a part of the process. Have an educated opinion. Contribute ideas. We are all in this together. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:32:34Z
- acnatta (André Natta)
- Q6 Reporters are important to shaping & developing the brand. It should be easy for visitors to contact/connect w/them #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:32:54Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @wjchat Q6 Everyone has a place at the table to help articulate/capture a design/brands philosophy or goal. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:32:58Z
- saulsugarman (Saul Sugarman)
- @kimbui How many test users did you give $20 to? cc: @dorsey #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:32:59Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- To help reporters w/feedback, don’t ask for their solutions, ask for their problems & give them some solutions #wjchat http://t.co/Ac7xPEJ
- 2011-09-01T01:33:34Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Two minutes until Q7! #wjchat http://t.co/kN7Uhm8
- 2011-09-01T01:34:37Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- Just today we had a talk abt including a reporter to our redesign team. We should have done that sooner! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:34:57Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @saulsugarman @dorsey $9 per month! http://t.co/b1mvxpO We used social media and our site to get users. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:35:09Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- @SuzanneYadaChat Yes. Designers are like the editors that see everything all at once — reader advocates even — in a broader sense #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:35:11Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @wjchat A6 The days of reporters/shooters dropping off their work and not participating of the second half of the process are gone. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:35:18Z
- ebonymarieb (Ebony Bailey)
- @wjchat They can give suggestions, especially about story template layout. But I can’t imagine much more than that. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:35:25Z
- acnatta (André Natta)
- RT @mirandamulligan: @wjchat A6 The days of reporters/shooters dropping off their work and not participating of the second half of the process are gone. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:35:27Z
- Fanua (Fanua)
- RT @SuzanneYadaChat: Just today we had a talk abt including a reporter to our redesign team. We should have done that sooner! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:35:42Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- @SuzanneYadaChat I’ll see your reporter on redesign team and raise you: an ad rep, a reader, an ad client… a mobile user… etc. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:36:03Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- @Fanua : HELLO! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:36:46Z
- saulsugarman (Saul Sugarman)
- That is super cheap. RT @kimbui $9 per month! http://t.co/KHLTyQV We used social media and our site to get users. #wjchat cc: @dorsey
- 2011-09-01T01:36:54Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @ebonymarieb @wjchat Design is about MUCH MORE than layout. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:37:39Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q7 What role, if any, do ethics play in digital news design? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:37:48Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Q7 What role, if any, do ethics play in digital news design? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:39:05Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- @saulsugarman Surprisingly, we found we don’t even have to offer readers incentive sometimes. They LOVE to share, talk. Cheap is ok. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:39:44Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @wjchat Q7 I’d suggest not including design elements designed to game search engines that don’t actually help users. #wjchat #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:39:59Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- Hierarchy (one part of design) is an ethical editorial decision. You are telling the world what’s most important. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:40:04Z
- saulsugarman (Saul Sugarman)
- @wjchat: A7: Privacy seems like it’d be a huge concern. I.E. commenting systems on websites — where is your email addy stored? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:40:40Z
- econceptsmktg (Kent Walter)
- RT @dorsey: Q1C: … Sadly, is about what’s good or easy for the organizations and NOT what’s preferred or best for the end user IMHO #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:40:47Z
- acnatta (André Natta)
- Q7 One example I can think of – don’t tag a story one way when it’s about something else. Honesty goes a long way. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:41:17Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Q7: One of my big peeves is when sites rank click-through on segmented stories over UX. Not such an ethical issue but I don’t return #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:41:48Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- Also, designs should be accessible and clear. I’d say that confusing design borders on unethical if you’re trying to bury something! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:42:13Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Q7: Agree with @acnatta: honesty and accuracy in labeling and headlines means a lot more in digital; ease of use matter more. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:42:32Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @saulsugarman Great, great point. Keeping user data secure is a huge ethical concern, as well as not using it against users’ wishes. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:42:44Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- There’s a difference between unethical & annoying, sometimes I can’t tell the difference! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:42:47Z
- FromCarl (Carl Lavin)
- @wjchat q7 Ethical design insures a design that emphasizes, not hides, origin, source or author of content #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:42:58Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q8 — the final q — coming in two minutes! Thanks for staying late with us! #wjchat http://t.co/kN7Uhm8
- 2011-09-01T01:43:04Z
- acnatta (André Natta)
- Yeah, I’d put ease of use over need to game SEO any day @dorsey #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:43:53Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- If you’re aggregating something on your site, not properly attributing the source clearly in your design is unethical! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:44:08Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- +1 RT @FromCarl: @wjchat q7 Ethical design insures a design that emphasizes, not hides, origin, source or author of content #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:44:23Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @wjchat Have to say… this is not exactly the conversation I expected tonight. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:44:37Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- Question: Is designing a site w/o concern for disabled or blind unethical? (like no alt tags on pics?) #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:44:42Z
- ebonymarieb (Ebony Bailey)
- @wjchat Comic sans is unethical. Joking. But not really… In seriousness, don’t let a reader think somethin is somethin its not #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:44:58Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @mirandamulligan What did you expect? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:45:10Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- @mirandamulligan what did you expect? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:45:21Z
- mayerjoy (Joy Mayer)
- Really sorry to be missing tonight’s #wjchat. I’ve got family in town and am tied up. Will catch up on the feed after the fact.
- 2011-09-01T01:45:48Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @SuzanneYadaChat Not sure if I’d say UNethical, but certainly LESS ethical/moral. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:46:01Z
- Fanua (Fanua)
- Hey Steve! hello back. :) RT @dorsey: @Fanua : HELLO! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:46:20Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- HAHA! We talked about this in class, no? MT @ebonymarieb: @wjchat Comic sans is unethical. Joking. But not really… #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:46:37Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q8 Final Q: Sharing time! What books/sites/projects are must-reads/sees for modern digital news design or design inspiration? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:46:47Z
- jodiontheweb (Jodi Gersh)
- comic sans. ha! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:47:11Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- MT @wjchat: Final Q: Sharing time! What books/sites/projects are must-reads/sees for modern digital news design or inspiration? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:48:12Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @MikeRoe Why do we all look exactly alike? Why can’t we seem to innovate in our presentation? Why is web news design still so hard? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:48:18Z
- kyleykim (Kyle Kim)
- RT @marianliu: @webjournalist -that’s a crazy good idea of a HTML5 study group! will push me to learn it! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:48:57Z
- Fanua (Fanua)
- RT @SuzanneYadaChat: If you’re aggregating something on your site, not properly attributing the source clearly in your design is unethical! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:48:58Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @MikeRoe Much more about UI/UX… for example, I bet many are confused by this. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:48:59Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @wjchat Q8 I’m addicted to Smashing Magazine. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:49:06Z
- Fanua (Fanua)
- RT @SuzanneYadaChat: There’s a difference between unethical & annoying, sometimes I can’t tell the difference! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:49:13Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @mirandamulligan All great questions. A little late now, but @wjchat always takes question submissions. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:50:34Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- .@mirandamulligan We had a Q about the suckiness of news design for products, but we had to bump it for time. :( // @MikeRoe #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:50:34Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- This is bugging me. There’s a site that lets you ask users a Q and they click on a mockup… what was it? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:50:44Z
- MikeRoe (Mike Roe)
- @mirandamulligan (My answers: ‘Cause we’re still all stealing design from print; old thinking; more education needed) #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:51:13Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @wjchat A8 alistapart.com and @abookapart books FOR DEFINITELY. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:51:26Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Why do we all look alike? @mirandamulligan @MikeRoe : a. corporate CMSes b. lack of bold risk-takers c. trying to look like print #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:51:39Z
- acnatta (André Natta)
- RT @dorsey: Why do we all look alike? @mirandamulligan @MikeRoe : a. corporate CMSes b. lack of bold risk-takers c. trying to look like print #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:51:54Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- Aha! http://t.co/OzA3vrY #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:51:55Z
- acnatta (André Natta)
- @dorsey that just about covers all the main reasons… #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:51:58Z
- junecross (June Cross)
- Do most reporters KNOW abt #anyofit? RT @webjournalist: RT @wjchat: Q6 What role does a reporter play in design, UI and branding? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:52:22Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @MikeRoe I think we might need to have a part deux to this confab, yeah? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:52:53Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- #wjchat ters, that is our time… thank you all for joining us and sharing your knowledge! Big thanks to our host @Dorsey! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:53:05Z
- TylerMachado (Tyler Machado)
- @mikeroe @mirandamulligan And aren’t there ANY good serif body fonts for web besides Georgia?! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:53:18Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @dorsey @MikeRoe DUDE!!! Guys. We need to have a deeper dive on this. Seriously. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:53:29Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Q8: I look at fastcompany daily. GapingVoid helps me after bad meetings. Twitter links for inspiration from @mirandamulligan… #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:54:16Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @TylerMachado We should have had a what’s your favorite font Q!! @mikeroe @mirandamulligan #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:54:31Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Big thanks to @webjournalist, @wjchat and the whole back stage crew for making this fun and smooth! A few notes… and a surprise… #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:54:40Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Also, pls join #wjchat + #socjourn for IRL interaction at #ONA11! Details: http://t.co/SqcCPLj Attended our IRL panel: http://t.co/7oJH80y
- 2011-09-01T01:55:06Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- We have a great program of digital and tablet and mobile planned at this year’s SND workshop in St. Louis… #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:55:18Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- This link gives you tools on how to get data from existing site design & future ones too: http://t.co/OzA3vrY #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:55:19Z
- ebonymarieb (Ebony Bailey)
- @wjchat I like the designs of Kourant and Colorlines. GOOD has nice infographics. Longshot is nice too. Great for inspiration.#wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:55:28Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- But: SNDSTL rates are increasing in hours: at 12:01am Sept 1.
Registration: http://t.co/Z3Twa8D #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:55:39Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @dorsey: We have a great program of digital and tablet and mobile planned at this year’s SND workshop in St. Louis… #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:56:05Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- @SND will be revealing winners of 2011 Best of Digital Design at @SNDSTL (Sept 29 – Oct 1). Details: www.sndstl.com #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:56:29Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @dorsey: But: SNDSTL rates are increasing in hours: at 12:01am Sept 1. Registration: http://t.co/BpPU742 #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:56:42Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- But before that… in Boston… @SND will host its 2nd annual ONA meetup Friday Sept 23 — follow @snd for details coming soon! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:56:44Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @TylerMachado OH honey. Web typography: bit.ly/nGXboa #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:57:04Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- MT @dorsey: in Boston… @SND will host its 2nd annual ONA meetup Friday Sept 23 — follow @snd for details coming soon! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:57:28Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- RT @wjchat: MT @dorsey: in Boston… @SND will host its 2nd annual ONA meetup Friday Sept 23 — follow @snd for details coming soon! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:57:42Z
- TylerMachado (Tyler Machado)
- @mirandamulligan Oh I love A List Apart. Just wonderin’ why more people don’t use those! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:58:44Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- If you were in the Joint chatroom, please tell us what you thought of the experience. Worth repeating?! #wjchat http://t.co/kN7Uhm8
- 2011-09-01T01:59:39Z
- TylerMachado (Tyler Machado)
- @webjournalist oooh…that’s a tough question actually! I’d have to think about that one. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T01:59:55Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @TylerMachado Education. Experimentation. Technology is there & plenty of browser support. All you need is a good font fallback plan #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T02:00:02Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- @henrymlopez was a great host. Kept me calm behind-the-scenes right before The Big Show. A true #wjchat pro. Thanks!
- 2011-09-01T02:00:38Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Okay, y’all … time to eat. Good night! Thanks for another great #wjchat … thank you @Dorsey!
- 2011-09-01T02:00:49Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- @SNDSTL: An entire track dedicated to mobile, tablet tech sponsord by Digital Pub. Alliance of Univ of Missouri’s RJI: bit.ly/qyJALj #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T02:01:10Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- RT @dorsey But before that, in Boston, @SND will host its 2nd annual ONA meetup Friday Sept 23. Follow @snd for details coming soon! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T02:01:17Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- And don’t miss @MirandaMulligan with the story ehind prototyping and designing the new BostonGlobe.com in : bit.ly/o6Kykj @sndstl #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T02:01:33Z
- j_nb (Jessica Binsch)
- @wjchat I got confused by parallel joint chatroom/ Twitter chat. Can you firmly go with one or the other next time? #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T02:02:14Z
- mterenzio (Matt Terenzio)
- RT @yelvington: #wjchat Obsess about your data + metadata. Get that right and derivative products get much easier.
- 2011-09-01T02:02:37Z
- Fanua (Fanua)
- RT @SuzanneYadaChat: This link gives you tools on how to get data from existing site design & future ones too: http://t.co/OzA3vrY #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T02:03:02Z
- SuzanneYadaChat (Suzanne Yada Chatter)
- Thanks #wjchat! It’s been fun!
- 2011-09-01T02:04:18Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- .@dorsey Oh. I went to the last @SND ONA party and it was raging. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T02:04:54Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- I didn’t play enough, but thanks to the awesome @dorsey! #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T02:07:51Z
- mirandamulligan (Miranda Mulligan)
- @wjchat Too bad. I vote we have a few more deep dives. We need to talk about design more. Journalism needs designers who can code. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T02:08:10Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- @acnatta Thanks for having me in #wjchat. You know @mayerjoy is cloning herself and will be at both #mybxb AND #sndstl — jump a train? :)
- 2011-09-01T02:17:00Z
- dorsey (Steve Dorsey)
- Deepest apologies to my Twitter-friends for the #wjchat mountain-o-tweets. It’s over now. (For this week). I promise.
- 2011-09-01T02:22:24Z
- ohmgee (martin gee)
- yeah, thanks to a giant asteroid. RT @dorsey: @mirandamulligan @saulsugarman The dinosaurs stopped evolving… :) #evolveordie #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T02:23:41Z
- ohmgee (martin gee)
- RT @mirandamulligan: We react too slowly as an industry. We should be talking mobile all the time MT @Dorsey Q3: MOBILE is #winning #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T02:27:43Z
- statweestics (Statweestics)
- #wjchat is getting popular, +900% the last hour : http://t.co/3HIlXnB
- 2011-09-01T02:27:45Z
- sndregion2 (sndregion2)
- RT @ohmgee: yeah, thanks to a giant asteroid. RT @dorsey: @mirandamulligan @saulsugarman The dinosaurs stopped evolving… :) #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T02:29:28Z
- sndregion2 (sndregion2)
- RT @dorsey: And don’t miss @MirandaMulligan with the story on prototyping/designing the new BostonGlobe.com: bit.ly/o6Kykj @sndstl #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T02:29:29Z
- shraddha714 (shraddha swaroop)
- RT @dorsey: And don’t miss @MirandaMulligan with the story on prototyping/designing the new BostonGlobe.com: bit.ly/o6Kykj @sndstl #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T03:06:20Z
- profkrg (Kenna Griffin)
- I was thinking tonight about how I haven’t talked to my favorite journo nerds on #wjchat in awhile. I should have checked my iCal. #fail
- 2011-09-01T03:07:05Z
- jenleereeves (Jen Lee Reeves)
- @profkrg It’s okay!! The #wjchat hashtag lives beyond the Wednesday night chat time.
- 2011-09-01T03:08:13Z
- profkrg (Kenna Griffin)
- @jenleereeves I must be busy on Wednesday or I just forget. I do love #wjchat!
- 2011-09-01T03:09:10Z
- jenleereeves (Jen Lee Reeves)
- @profkrg I think so… it went long b/c the convo was rolling tonight. I helped man an optional G+ hangout. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T03:10:42Z
- stephencearley (Steve Earley)
- So, I’m a week behind on #wjchat, wanna fight about it? One of the coolest mobile apps I’ve seen from a news org: http://t.co/TpYZQOV
- 2011-09-01T03:11:06Z
- JoshFrigerio (Josh Frigerio)
- @profkrg This just reminded me that I missed #wjchat too! Ugh! Fail.
- 2011-09-01T03:19:24Z
- anupmarwadi (Anup Marwadi)
- RT @DaniFankhauser: RT @Journerdism: #wjchat Put this in your UX / UI pipe discussion and smoke it. http://t.co/BgQQH5m cc @ghoshal
- 2011-09-01T03:47:35Z
- trishanderton (trish anderton)
- Yes! via my phone MT @ohmgee: RT @mirandamulligan: We should be talking mobile all the time MT @Dorsey Q3: MOBILE is #winning #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T05:12:44Z
- LiciBev (Lici Beveridge)
- RT @statweestics: #wjchat is getting popular, +900% the last hour : http://t.co/3HIlXnB
- 2011-09-01T09:36:43Z
- gkamp (gkamp)
- RT @yelvington: #wjchat Obsess about your data + metadata. Get that right and derivative products get much easier.
- 2011-09-01T16:04:53Z
- RobinJP (Robin J Phillips)
- @wjchat Bringing in some new young journalists looking for tips, ideas, tools. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T16:19:56Z
- mobify (Mobify)
- @verbalcupcake Hey Sarah, thanks for giving Mobify a try. Any Qs or feedback? Love to hear it. #wjchat
- 2011-09-01T19:19:41Z
- RobinJP (Robin J Phillips)
- @Sucker4details Happy to spread the word about #wjchat .. always nice to meet another”nerdtastic” journalist. Thanks for having me in class.
- 2011-09-01T21:29:49Z
- KelseyProud (Kelsey Proud)
- Attn: fellow #nerds / #wjchat: SAP Dodges Oracle Bullet As Judge Overturns Record $1.3B Copyright Verdict via @tpm http://t.co/nXPjGxq