- 2010-12-02T01:02:39Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Welcome to the 43rd episode of #wjchat, a weekly discussion for Web journalists. Topic: The Future of Storytelling #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:03:03Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Our host tonight is Burt Herman / @burtherman CEO of @Storify and founder of @HacksHackers. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:03:04Z
- drapetomaniac (Rich Vázquez)
- RT @wjchat: Welcome to the 43rd episode of #wjchat, a weekly discussion for Web journalists. Topic: The Future of Storytelling #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:03:26Z
- jodiontheweb (Jodi Gersh)
- Hello fellow #wjchat ers. I’m popping in for a bit.
- 2010-12-02T01:03:37Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- Followers: I’m jumping in to #wjchat tonight. Topic: Future of Storytelling. Join us! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:03:38Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Welcome to the 43rd episode of #wjchat, a weekly discussion for Web journalists. Topic: The Future of Storytelling #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:03:44Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Our host tonight is Burt Herman / @burtherman CEO of @Storify and founder of @HacksHackers. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:03:53Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- @burtherman Just made it into the grand #wjchat studio at the last second. Thanks for being here tonight.
#wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:04:16Z
- jodiontheweb (Jodi Gersh)
- RT @wjchat: Welcome to the 43rd episode of #wjchat, a weekly discussion for Web journalists. Topic: The Future of Storytelling #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:04:44Z
- jodiontheweb (Jodi Gersh)
- @burtherman Hi again! Welcome to #wjchat!!
- 2010-12-02T01:04:58Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- RT @wjchat: Our host tonight is Burt Herman / @burtherman CEO of @Storify and founder of @HacksHackers. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:04:59Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Let’s start! Please introduce yourself, respond to questions and share your knowledge! Thanks for joining tonight’s #wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:05:40Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- @wjchat Honored to be a part of this, thanks for inviting me! #wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:05:57Z
- cascheller (ChristineAScheller)
- RT @wjchat: Welcome to the 43rd episode of #wjchat, a weekly discussion for Web journalists. Topic: The Future of Storytelling #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:06:36Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- Hope I can jump into #wjchat soon, but the story gods decide to drop one at 3:30 p.m. Got to love it.
- 2010-12-02T01:06:43Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Let’s start! Please introduce yourself, respond to questions and share your knowledge! Thanks for joining tonight’s #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:07:04Z
- timunroe (Tim Munroe)
- RT @spjchat: Followers: I’m jumping in to #wjchat tonight. Topic: Future of Storytelling. Join us! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:07:05Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- @henrymlopez is working behind the scenes on the #wjchat account tonight. @webjournalist and @SarahDayOwen are staffing the chat. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:07:38Z
- jodiontheweb (Jodi Gersh)
- Jodi Gersh here, social media manager for Gannett. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:07:49Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- I’m Mai Hoang, biz reporter for @yakima_herald. And on deadline. Hope to bounce back soon! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:08:03Z
- schneidan (Daniel Schneider)
- @wjchat Dan Schneider, DenverPost.com web and social media producer, live in the newsroom as police explode toy robots in Denver. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:08:03Z
- the_networks (Social Network (RSS))
- Jodi: Jodi Gersh here, social media manager for Gannett. #wjchat: http://bit.ly/dVkfEL
- 2010-12-02T01:08:07Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- @wjchat Hello! Missed a couple #wjchats, glad to be back. Sarah Day Owen, social media editor at Augusta, Ga. daily! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:08:20Z
- ruthings (Ruth Harper)
- Came across #wjchat and thought I’d check it out tonight as I do some work! :) MarComm grad student & freelancer here :) @wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:08:23Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Hi all, I’m Robert Hernandez Web journalist, Profe @USCAnnenberg, co-creator of #wjchat and newbie #ONA board member.
- 2010-12-02T01:08:28Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- From the Roanoke Free Press – taking a break from tree decorating to join @wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:08:30Z
- Niketa (Niketa Patel)
- Niketa here, Social Media Producer for @ABC News. Howdy! Tis been a while since I stopped by! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:08:40Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- REMINDER: Message @wjchat and @webjournalist (w/o the hashtag #wjchat) if you Qs you want to ask the group. #wjchat
#wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:08:49Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- I’m Mike Reilley, DePaul journalism prof, founder of SPJ’s Journalist’s Toolbox @journtoolbox and @spjdepaul adviser/#SPJchat mod. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:09:12Z
- StephLauren (Stephanie Haberman)
- First timer here, hi #wjchat! I’m Stephanie Haberman, a communications intern at Sports Illustrated
- 2010-12-02T01:09:18Z
- malexjohnson (Alex Johnson)
- Alex Johnson, msnbc.com reporter, watching the chat while working on a story. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:09:26Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Also … I think I’ve become a professional instigator. :) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:09:33Z
- darthcheeta (David Johnson)
- hey #wjchat – i’m david johnson, professor of funkology for @au_soc – just popping in to say hi and wish y’all a groovy one.
- 2010-12-02T01:09:37Z
- stephencearley (Steve Earley)
- I’m Steve, a community coordinator at the @baltimoresun. Good to be back on #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:09:47Z
- schneidan (Daniel Schneider)
- @wjchat @burtherman Welcome, Burt. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:09:51Z
- The_Dean (Jason Dean)
- @wjchat Howdy, Jason Dean here, somewhat participating while working & watching the Badgers basketball game #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:10:02Z
- RobinJP (Robin Phillips)
- @StephLauren welcome. glad to see new faces. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:10:06Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- #wjchat I’m Burt Herman, co-founder and CEO of Storify and founder of Hacks/Hackers. I’m your guest for the night :) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:10:06Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- Congrats RT @webjournalist: Also … I think Ive become a professional instigator. :) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:10:37Z
- RobinJP (Robin Phillips)
- Gonna get chatty. It’s Wednesday. Must be #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:10:40Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- RT @wjchat: Please introduce yourself, respond to questions and share your knowledge! Thanks for joining tonight’s #wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:10:40Z
- drapetomaniac (Rich Vázquez)
- Rich Vazquez, developer for Community Impact Newspaper @impactnews and member of @HacksHackersATX #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:10:49Z
- ClaudiaKoerner (Claudia Koerner)
- Hi there, Claudia Koerner, community reporter @OCReggie #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:10:52Z
- Niketa (Niketa Patel)
- Sounds evil to me! ;-) RT @webjournalist: Also … I think I’ve become a professional instigator. :) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:11:12Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: REMINDER: Message @wjchat (w/o the hashtag #wjchat) if you Qs you want to ask the group. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:11:20Z
- BrianManzullo (Brian Manzullo)
- I’ll pop my head in an out of #wjchat. Brian Manzullo, web blogger and online sports producer at @azcentral.
- 2010-12-02T01:11:23Z
- chelseabot (Chelsea Stark)
- @wjchat I’m Chelsea Stark, grad student at NYU’s #studio20 run by @jayrosen_nyu. Former web journalista badass from Austin. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:11:28Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- @StephLauren Welcome! :) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:11:34Z
- jenkuglin (Jenny Kuglin)
- Hi Burt! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:11:42Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q1 – dropping now. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:11:47Z
- nathangibbs (Nathan Gibbs)
- #wjchat intro: web producer in #pubmedia, multimedia j-prof, frequent tweeter on @ModernJourno #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:11:49Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q1 In terms of journalism, what is the difference between a reporter and storyteller? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:12:22Z
- karamat (Kara Matuszewski)
- @vhernandezcnn RT @wjchat: Q1 In terms of journalism, what is the difference between a reporter and storyteller? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:12:23Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Q1 In terms of journalism, what is the difference between a reporter and storyteller? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:12:26Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- RT @wjchat: Q1 In terms of journalism, what is the difference between a reporter and storyteller? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:12:49Z
- ruthings (Ruth Harper)
- RT @wjchat: Q1 In terms of journalism, what is the difference between a reporter and storyteller? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:13:04Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- RT @karamat: @vhernandezcnn RT @wjchat: Q1 In terms of journalism, what is the difference between a reporter and storyteller? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:13:07Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- Hey, I’m Dan MacLeod, outgoing college newspaper editor (@usmfreepress), freelance reporter and editor en route to New York. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:13:17Z
- nathangibbs (Nathan Gibbs)
- RT @wjchat: Our host tonight is Burt Herman / @burtherman CEO of @Storify and founder of @HacksHackers. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:13:37Z
- chelseabot (Chelsea Stark)
- @wjchat Q1 — is there one? Some of the best reporters consider themselves storytellers, in the non-fiction sense. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:13:37Z
- stevesaldivar (Steve Saldivar)
- Any perceived differences wouldn’t amount to the goal that both share: captivate your audience. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:13:40Z
- BrianManzullo (Brian Manzullo)
- Q1 If the reporter is doing their job, then nothing. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:13:44Z
- niltiac (Caitlin Fitzsimmons)
- @wjchat Reporting is about gathering the information. Storytelling is about how you present it. One person CAN do both well. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:13:49Z
- Amadeus3000 (Anthony Capps)
- @wjchat Anthony Capps, an editor at the Iowa State Daily. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:13:55Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- Q1. To be a great storyteller, you must first be a good reporter. Reporting drives great writing and multimedia storytelling #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:14:00Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- on Q1: Anyone can now be a reporter when news breaks. We need storytellers/sensemakers journalists/curators more than ever. #wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:14:22Z
- RobinJP (Robin Phillips)
- Robin Phillips here. Web ME at @BizJournalism #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:14:23Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- Q1: Reporter is more fact driven – Storyteller can be more emotionally descriptive. But both should have a bit of each. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:14:39Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @niltiac: Reporting is about gathering the information. Storytelling is about how you present it. One person CAN do both well. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:14:39Z
- jrstahl (Jessica Stahl)
- Hi all. Jess here. Voice of America digital, social media. Flitting btw #wjchat, ANTM and making sure chanukah candles don’t start a fire!
- 2010-12-02T01:14:42Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @wjchat Eek! A bit late! I’m Sarah. A friend recently introduced me to someone as a “Social Media Anthropologist.” #Mmmmkay #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:14:48Z
- ruthings (Ruth Harper)
- Q1: I would say a reporter is a certain kind of storyteller. Good reporters = storytellers #wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:14:55Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @ValerieInRke Reporter is more fact driven – Storyteller can be more emotionally descriptive. But both should have a bit of each. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:15:06Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Q1 One is collecting raw information, the other is sharing it in an engaging way. So folks are stronger in one, others rock both. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:15:09Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- Hi, I’m @SaleemKhan, Toronto-based journalist and consultant focused on innovation in news. This is my chat-only account. #WJChat
- 2010-12-02T01:15:09Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- RT @niltiac: Reporting is about gathering the information. Storytelling is about how you present it. One person CAN do both well. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:15:10Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- RT @burtherman: on Q1: Anyone can now be a reporter when news breaks. We need storytellers/sensemakers journalists/curators more than ever. #wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:15:10Z
- billiegirltoo (billiegirltoo)
- RT @burtherman: on Q1: Anyone can now be a reporter when news breaks. We need storytellers/sensemakers journalists/curators more than ever. #wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:15:19Z
- vaguity (Sean Connolly)
- Q1 I always thought of a reporter as after the news–the latest. A storyteller weaves together a long-term narrative. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:15:20Z
- Niketa (Niketa Patel)
- A1 Both should go hand in hand. A reporter seeks out good stories & uses storytelling as a vehicle to express the story. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:15:20Z
- The_Dean (Jason Dean)
- @wjchat There’s a difference? Maybe if you’re doing something wrong. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:15:30Z
- jenkuglin (Jenny Kuglin)
- Reporting is gathering facts. Storytelling takes someone to a place they’ve never been, painting a picture, giving context. #wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:15:37Z
- Amadeus3000 (Anthony Capps)
- Q1: A good journalist is also a top-notch storyteller. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:15:39Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- RT @wjchat: Q1 In terms of journalism, what is the difference between a reporter and storyteller? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:15:48Z
- hbillings (Heather Billings)
- Q1: A reporter presents the facts. A storyteller interprets the facts and takes the audience on a journey. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:16:00Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- Storytelling is making sense of what’s happening — providing the narrative. Reporters collect, STers share. Journos should be both. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:16:02Z
- bberwyn (Bob Berwyn)
- Hi #wjchat, Bob Berwyn, founder of @summitvoice, online alt news for #Colorado. Started publishing exactly 1 year ago, to the day!
- 2010-12-02T01:16:03Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @burtherman Anyone can now be a reporter when news breaks. We need storytellers/sensemakers journalists/curators more than ever. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:16:06Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- RT @ruthings: Q1: I would say a reporter is a certain kind of storyteller. Good reporters = storytellers #wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:16:07Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- Q1: Technology has lowered barriers to reporting and transmitting info, but human editing/curation is an art #wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:16:10Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- RT @Amadeus3000: Q1: A good journalist is also a top-notch storyteller. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:16:11Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- “Journalism” seems to me to be when good reporting and good storytelling come from the same person/team. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:16:16Z
- niltiac (Caitlin Fitzsimmons)
- @burtherman Disagree that everyone can report. Not all reportage is about watching an event unfold – and there’s skill even to that. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:16:27Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @hbillings: Q1: A reporter presents the facts. A storyteller interprets the facts and takes the audience on a journey. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:16:37Z
- hbillings (Heather Billings)
- (hi, #wjchat. Heather Billings, a multimedia producer for Cronkite News Service/grad student at ASU! *waves*)
- 2010-12-02T01:16:38Z
- jodiontheweb (Jodi Gersh)
- Like! RT @stevesaldivar: Any perceived differences wouldn’t amount to the goal that both share: captivate your audience. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:16:47Z
- billiegirltoo (billiegirltoo)
- RT @burtherman: Q1: Technology has lowered barriers to reporting and transmitting info, but human editing/curation is an art #wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:16:51Z
- niltiac (Caitlin Fitzsimmons)
- RT @Niketa: A1 Both should go hand in hand. A reporter seeks out good stories & uses storytelling as a vehicle to express the story. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:17:02Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Been in meetings w/editors .. there is a difference. Two really important skills that are different. Both powerful working together. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:17:08Z
- ruthings (Ruth Harper)
- RT @Niketa: A1 Both should go hand in hand. A reporter seeks out good stories & uses storytelling as a vehicle to express the story. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:17:10Z
- MyEugene (MyEugene)
- Oooh. Saw first question on #wjchat. Too late to resist even with deadlines looming.
- 2010-12-02T01:17:10Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- Sing it! RT @burtherman Q1: Technology has lowered barriers to reporting & transmitting info, but human editing/curation is an art #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:17:11Z
- ClaudiaKoerner (Claudia Koerner)
- Q1 Reporting is that immediate online post, storytelling is the more thoughtful, later coverage. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:17:12Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- Excellent RT @hbillings: Q1: A reporter presents the facts. A storyteller interprets the facts and takes the audience on a journey. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:17:13Z
- hbillings (Heather Billings)
- RT @verbalcupcake: “Journalism” seems to me to be when good reporting and good storytelling come from the same person/team. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:17:13Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- #WJChat #Q1 This is a semantic debate better had over drinks. The best journalists are reporters AND storytellers.
- 2010-12-02T01:17:15Z
- jodiontheweb (Jodi Gersh)
- RT @burtherman: Anyone can now be a reporter when news breaks. We need storytellers/sensemakers journalists/curators more than ever. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:17:23Z
- RobinJP (Robin Phillips)
- nice RT @verbalcupcake “Journalism” seems to me to be when good reporting and good storytelling come from the same person/team. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:17:24Z
- garethoconnor (Gareth O’Connor)
- following very relevant #wjchat on the future of storytelling.
- 2010-12-02T01:17:25Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- RT @burtherman: Q1: Technology has lowered barriers to reporting and transmitting info, but human editing/curation is an art #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:17:42Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @hbillings Howdy, friend! *waves back* #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:17:44Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- @niltiac True, but now we can get more points of view, not just the staff person on the scene #wjchat Q1 #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:17:49Z
- nathangibbs (Nathan Gibbs)
- Q1: “reporter” and “storyteller” should be one and the same. The distinction is more about particular stories vs individual labels. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:17:50Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @burtherman: Q1: Technology has lowered barriers to reporting and transmitting info, but human editing/curation is an art #wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:17:54Z
- sdulai (Shaminder Dulai)
- Journalist vs storytellers? We’re both! That’s like asking if a hard news reporter can also do features. We’re journos! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:18:02Z
- greggvm (Gregg Morris)
- RT @burtherman Technology has lowered barriers to reporting & transmitting info, but human editing/curation is an art #wjchat #storytelling
- 2010-12-02T01:18:02Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- RT @hbillings: Q1: A reporter presents the facts. A storyteller interprets the facts and takes the audience on a journey. #wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:18:04Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- Agreed! RT @niltiac: @burtherman Disagree that everyone can report. Not all reportage is about watching an event unfold/takes skill #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:18:05Z
- sabzPR (Sabrina Maddeaux)
- +1 RT @ruthings: Q1: I would say a reporter is a certain kind of storyteller. Good reporters = storytellers #wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:18:20Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Nice warm-up on Q1 – Q2 coming in two minutes. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:18:20Z
- bdnbiz (Matt Wickenheiser)
- Reporting is more than stenographing history; relationships, interviews, nose for news – all important! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:18:21Z
- lindaperrybarr (Linda Perry )
- A1- A good reporter is a good storyteller. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:18:31Z
- malexjohnson (Alex Johnson)
- Q1: Reporting is the craft. Storytelling is the art. They can coexist. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:18:32Z
- jodiontheweb (Jodi Gersh)
- Wow – #wjchat is already off to an amazing start. What terrific answers you are all sharing!!
- 2010-12-02T01:18:46Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- Q1: Generally I don’t think MSM quite has the right mix yet. That’s why I love the web. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:18:50Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- RT @SaleemChat: #WJChat #Q1 This is a semantic debate better had over drinks. The best journalists are reporters AND storytellers. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:18:56Z
- ClaudiaKoerner (Claudia Koerner)
- @MAlexJohnson nicely put. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:19:03Z
- andymboyle (Andy Boyle)
- @wjchat Storytelling is what you do AFTER your reporting. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:19:06Z
- The_Dean (Jason Dean)
- @SaleemChat I think all these debates/questions are better over drinks #maybeitsjustme #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:19:08Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- RT @malexjohnson: Q1: Reporting is the craft. Storytelling is the art. They can coexist. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:19:11Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @burtherman: Q1: Technology has lowered barriers to reporting and transmitting info, but human editing/curation is an art #wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:19:13Z
- jodiontheweb (Jodi Gersh)
- RT @hbillings: Q1: A reporter presents the facts. A storyteller interprets the facts and takes the audience on a journey. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:19:15Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- They need to for it all to work. RT @MAlexJohnson: Q1: Reporting is the craft. Storytelling is the art. They can coexist. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:19:16Z
- chelseabot (Chelsea Stark)
- Good “reporters” capture the human story in any event, then become storytellers when they centralize the person in their narrative. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:19:29Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- #WJChat #Q1 Anyone can report, e.g. “I saw that car crash.” Journalist: “A car driven by alleged bank robbers fleeing police crashed.”
- 2010-12-02T01:19:30Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- @SaleemChat A gin and tonic would go down well right about now :) #wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:19:37Z
- DavidClinchNews (David Clinch)
- @wjchat I’m David Clinch, Editorial Director of @Storyful #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:19:40Z
- niltiac (Caitlin Fitzsimmons)
- @burtherman For events-based reportage, a good reporter always did vox pops etc. Now they would weave in citizen reports as well. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:19:45Z
- ClaudiaKoerner (Claudia Koerner)
- @burtherman i’ll buy the first round. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:19:50Z
- calliopeconsult (P L Mudd )
- RT @webjournalist: They need to for it all to work. RT @MAlexJohnson: Q1: Reporting is the craft. Storytelling is the art. They can coexist. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:19:51Z
- bberwyn (Bob Berwyn)
- What he said: RT @SaleemChat This is a semantic debate better had over drinks. The best journalists are reporters AND storytellers. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:19:59Z
- sdulai (Shaminder Dulai)
- @wjchat @hbillings I disagree. Storytellers in the journalistic sense never interprets facts. That’s not exactly objective. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:20:06Z
- MyEugene (MyEugene)
- Q1. Reporter collects content for the “gift” of news; Storyteller decides how to package and present that “gift. #CanBeOneAndSame #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:20:15Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q2 coming up. It’s a two parter. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:20:18Z
- susan_w (Susan Wade)
- RT @jodiontheweb: RT @hbillings: Q1: A reporter presents the facts. A storyteller interprets the facts and takes the audience on a journey. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:20:19Z
- Niketa (Niketa Patel)
- RT @burtherman: Q1: Technology has lowered barriers to reporting and transmitting info, but human editing/curation is an art. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:20:28Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q2 What is the role of a journalist in telling a story when everyone is a reporter? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:20:28Z
- kbeninato (Karen DaltonBeninato)
- Reporters are at dailies, storytellers at long form magazine jobs that are left RT 1) Difference between a reporter and storyteller? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:20:29Z
- jrstahl (Jessica Stahl)
- @saleemchat Storyteller: who are the bank robbers, why are they doing it, how does it fit into a broader story about the town #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:20:44Z
- stephrguzman (Stephanie Guzman)
- Q1 All story ellers are journalists but not all journalists are storytellers #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:21:03Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @The_Dean @SaleemChat Then you should fix yourself a drink, for sure! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:21:18Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- Q1: Looks like we all got a handle on reporting/storytelling. Good stuff. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:21:23Z
- nathangibbs (Nathan Gibbs)
- Q1: Some would call a story a “report” because of its limited scope. A “story” would then be something that goes beyond bare facts. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:21:28Z
- andymboyle (Andy Boyle)
- @wjchat You want to make it pleasant to readers. So it doesn’t suck. So it makes sense. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:21:46Z
- andymboyle (Andy Boyle)
- @wjchat A story is just that. A beginning, middle and end. You spin a yarn. A report doesn’t do that. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:21:47Z
- stephrguzman (Stephanie Guzman)
- @hbillings: Q1: A reporter presents the facts. A storyteller interprets the facts and takes the audience on a journey. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:21:51Z
- sdulai (Shaminder Dulai)
- Q2 We bring the voice you can trust that’s built on years of training, ethics, access and a proven track record. Credibility baby. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:21:52Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Q2 What is the role of a journalist in telling a story when everyone is a reporter? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:21:59Z
- MyEugene (MyEugene)
- Uh oh. We’re talking about drinking already just after first question. #SignOfAGoodQuestionISuppose #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:22:14Z
- tatn (Tuyet A. N. T.)
- @wjchat Q.1 There are few diffs between a reporter & a storyteller,the former uses verifiable information,the latter can embellish #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:22:23Z
- Niketa (Niketa Patel)
- A2 Professional journalists should seek out unique angles and use a variety of tools to tell a story to stand out from the crowd. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:22:23Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- Q2 Giving context, digging deeper. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:22:25Z
- Amadeus3000 (Anthony Capps)
- Q1: Everyone is a journalist. Reporting is that immediate writing/organizing. Storytelling is the next level up. Get emotion. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:22:42Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- Nice. RT @andymboyle: @wjchat A story is just that. A beginning, middle and end. You spin a yarn. A report doesnt do that. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:22:43Z
- bberwyn (Bob Berwyn)
- Q2 – Adding context, sources other than eyewitness accounts, historic background, perspective based on knowledge of subject #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:23:10Z
- bberwyn (Bob Berwyn)
- RT @webjournalist: RT @wjchat: Q2 What is the role of a journalist in telling a story when everyone is a reporter? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:23:11Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- Q2: Journalists need to open up the process, which we’re already seeing happen. There’s still a ways to go #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:23:15Z
- The_Dean (Jason Dean)
- @verbalcupcake @SaleemChat Well, since you insist… #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:23:21Z
- drbillasu (Dr. Bill Silcock)
- RT @hbillings: Q1: A reporter presents the facts. A storyteller interprets the facts and takes the audience on a journey. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:23:27Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- Q2: Ethics, accuracy, credibility. And CONTEXT. Not to say others can’t, but journalists do this better. Much better. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:23:33Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- @jrstahl @saleemchat And the bank robber was wearing designer jeans, walked like John Wayne but had hair like Donald Trump. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:23:40Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- Late. Again. Hi folks #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:23:42Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Q2 To make it engaging, to give it context to explain the meaning … to make it worth my time to read/listen/view. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:23:43Z
- bdnbiz (Matt Wickenheiser)
- Telling the story with credibility, depth and expertise #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:23:44Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @SDulai I’ve spent many, many years studying how people make sense of what they see, read, and share. “Objectivity” is a myth. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:23:49Z
- chelseabot (Chelsea Stark)
- @wjchat when everyone can report, journalists need to add context, curate information and humanize. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:24:01Z
- Bambles (Amber)
- RT @stephrguzman: @hbillings: Q1: A reporter presents the facts. A storyteller interprets the facts and takes the audience on a journey. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:24:04Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- RT @bberwyn: Q2 – Adding context, sources other than eyewitness accounts, background, perspective based on knowledge of subject #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:24:11Z
- FehmidaMalik (Fehmida Malik)
- A2 @wjchat when a journalist is also a good editor, he/she gets to tell a good story as opposed to merely reporting the story #wjchat #in
- 2010-12-02T01:24:11Z
- ruthings (Ruth Harper)
- Q2: Journo role is to tell unbiased facts or at least be fair & also to make it make sense. (if that makes sense, haha) #wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:24:28Z
- nathangibbs (Nathan Gibbs)
- Q2 Journalists bring context and insight beyond a singular breaking report. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:24:34Z
- jrstahl (Jessica Stahl)
- HA! RT @valerieinrke: @jrstahl @saleemchat And robber was wearing designer jeans, walked like John Wayne, had hair like Donald Trump #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:24:40Z
- stephrguzman (Stephanie Guzman)
- @tatn I don’t think a storyteller that calls him or herself a journo should embellish. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:24:40Z
- RobinJP (Robin Phillips)
- Q2 Journalists add context, knowledge, depth to facts. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:24:43Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Folks, we forgot to promo last week’s #wjchat transcript … check out the lighting round portion! http://bit.ly/frB4vm
- 2010-12-02T01:24:46Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- Yes! RT @chelseabot: @wjchat when everyone can report, journalists need to add context, curate information and humanize. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:24:50Z
- marissaaevans (Marissa Evans)
- RT @webjournalist: RT @wjchat: Q2 What is the role of a journalist in telling a story when everyone is a reporter? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:25:20Z
- tatn (Tuyet A. N. T.)
- Hi @kimbui #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:25:29Z
- Amadeus3000 (Anthony Capps)
- Q2: Analyze. Give context. Anyone can feed information and facts. Give depth, feeling, make it personal. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:25:36Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- RT @RobinJP: Q2 Journalists add context, knowledge, depth to facts. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:25:45Z
- MyEugene (MyEugene)
- RT @wjchat: Q2 What is the role of a journalist in telling a story when everyone is a reporter? #wjchat < Another good one!
- 2010-12-02T01:25:48Z
- sdulai (Shaminder Dulai)
- @verbalcupcake I hear the “objectivity is myth” argument a lot. But I respectfully disagree. I work hard, and my name is my bond. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:25:48Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @jodiontheweb God, I know Some day that will stop. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:25:51Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- Q2: The journalist has an audience in mind and tailors stories for readers, gives context and analysis #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:26:01Z
- dabeard (David Beard)
- Q2 Create it in a way that answers this question in the affirmative: Would I read this if I weren’t paid to read this? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:26:01Z
- jodiontheweb (Jodi Gersh)
- RT @spjchat: Yes! RT @chelseabot: when everyone can report, journalists need to add context, curate information and humanize. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:26:07Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- Q2: Find that tidbit of info, develop it into an angle no one else thought about. Always hang around longer than other journos. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:26:10Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Ok, we’ve heard alot about context in Q2. Here come Q2B, how do they relate? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:26:18Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q2B In light of this week’s news, what the heck is WikiLeaks? Reporter, source, journalist, tipsheet, other? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:26:20Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- Q2: Writing the nut graf. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:26:26Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Q2B In light of this week’s news, what the heck is WikiLeaks? Reporter, source, journalist, tipsheet, other? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:26:55Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- Oh noes I’m late! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:27:04Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- Q2: Y’all have said it, but context and the emotion behind the story. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:27:13Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @burtherman: Q2: The journalist has an audience in mind and tailors stories for readers, gives context and analysis #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:27:21Z
- malexjohnson (Alex Johnson)
- Q2. Determining what are real dots and what are fake dots, and then connecting the real dots. #wjchat #analogiesRus
- 2010-12-02T01:27:22Z
- chelseabot (Chelsea Stark)
- @wjchat wikileaks is more of a source. Someone has to wade through all that data and explain *why* it’s important. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:27:30Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- Q2: Johnny tweeting that he saw a man hit by a bus doesn’t necessarily make him a reporter. A witness, yes. Reporter, probably not. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:27:35Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Q2B #WikiLeaks is a source or tipsheet. They are key to the journalism, but are not — at least with the latest dump — journos. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:27:44Z
- sdulai (Shaminder Dulai)
- Q2B WikiLeaks is a fancy ass PR release firm. They just throw out the info and journos should pick it up and investigate it. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:27:53Z
- stephrguzman (Stephanie Guzman)
- Agree w/ @chelseabot. Q2 Need to humanize story. In radio driveway moments happen w/ stories about people. @webjournalist it’s ppl! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:28:11Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- Love it! RT @DSMacLeod: Q2: Writing the nut graf. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:28:13Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- #WJChat #Q1 Storyteller: A laid-off auto-worker crashed his car in a police chase after allegedly robbing a bank to pay for a son’s surgery.
- 2010-12-02T01:28:18Z
- jrstahl (Jessica Stahl)
- and important dots RT @malexjohnson: Q2. Determining what are real dots and fake dots #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:28:19Z
- drapetomaniac (Rich Vázquez)
- Q2B Wikileaks is a source, but not a whistleblower. As a source, I wonder how news organizations are vetting the material #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:28:23Z
- writepudding (Liana Aghajanian)
- RT @webjournalist: Q2B #WikiLeaks is a source or tipsheet. They are key to the journalism, but are not — at least with the latest dump — journos. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:28:23Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- could someone RT Q2a plz #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:28:25Z
- danny1610 (● daии-yəL™ ● )
- RT @kimbui: Q2: Y’all have said it, but context and the emotion behind the story. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:28:26Z
- bdnbiz (Matt Wickenheiser)
- WL is part of the reporting process, but in isolation. It’s a spoon-feed. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:28:29Z
- sebprovencher (Sebastien Provencher)
- RT @chelseabot: @wjchat when everyone can report, journalists need to add context, curate information and humanize. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:28:30Z
- g24khamr (Gary Goldhammer)
- Love this… RT @MAlexJohnson Q1: Reporting is the craft. Storytelling is the art. They can coexist. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:28:31Z
- malexjohnson (Alex Johnson)
- RT @jrstahl: and important dots RT @malexjohnson: Q2. Determining what are real dots and fake dots #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:28:41Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @SDulai I’ll choose some of your stories to have my students analyze for slant in spring semester. I’ll let you know the results… #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:28:42Z
- ClaudiaKoerner (Claudia Koerner)
- Not to be a hater, but citizen journos and source documents like WikiLeaks don’t have the compelling writing that makes a good story #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:28:49Z
- billiegirltoo (billiegirltoo)
- RT @webjournalist: Q2B #WikiLeaks is a source or tipsheet. They are key to the journalism, but are not — at least with the latest dump — journos. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:28:54Z
- lindaperrybarr (Linda Perry )
- more like @saleemchat Remember John Wayne movies where everyone froze when he walkd into the saloon, well that’s what happened whn.. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:29:03Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- Q2B: Hard to say Wikileaks is a reporter. No context. Source/tip sheet in my view. Been thinking about this all week. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:29:04Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- @webjournalist @wjchat WikiLeaks, Julian Assange is an anarchist as commentator said tonight. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:29:08Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- Q2: I see Wikileaks as a source, and journalists are definitely needed to sift through all that info to give context #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:29:31Z
- Niketa (Niketa Patel)
- A2B: Wikileaks is neither friend or foe – they should be treated like an objective source. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:29:40Z
- MyEugene (MyEugene)
- Q2. To find the best options (most relevant for community) for telling that story based on aggregate data and info from reporters #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:30:10Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- Q2B: WikiLeaks is just one of the greatest news tipsters of all time. Far as I can tell, they didn’t spend a lot of time sifting. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:30:29Z
- gteresa (Teresa Gorman)
- MT @webjournalist: #WikiLeaks is a source or tipsheet. They are key to the journalism, but are not-at least w/ latest dump-journos. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:30:35Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- Q2b Wikileaks is a proxy, as well as a source. While source mater is avail. many stories run from their redacted content. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:30:37Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @SDulai Even the most carefully edited stories will contain ex’s of slant. Doesn’t mean the reporting or the journalism have failed. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:30:39Z
- chelseabot (Chelsea Stark)
- @DSMacLeod right? more like a news dump than anything else. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:30:44Z
- sdulai (Shaminder Dulai)
- @verbalcupcake I’m staring this response so I’m sure to follow up. I’m very curious to find out if I’m as objective as I think :) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:30:51Z
- MyEugene (MyEugene)
- RT @g24khamr: Love this… RT @MAlexJohnson Q1: Reporting is the craft. Storytelling is the art. They can coexist. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:31:04Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- RT @wjchat: Q2 What is the role of a journalist in telling a story when everyone is a reporter? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:31:06Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- @Niketa Perhaps not “objective” — the material does need to be vetted carefully to make sure it’s legit #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:31:12Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- RT @DSMacLeod: Q2B: WikiLeaks is just one of the greatest news tipsters of all time. they didnt spend time sifting #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:31:18Z
- RobinJP (Robin Phillips)
- Q2b Wikileak data should be used as a tipsheet from which stories could be told by journalists #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:31:27Z
- nathangibbs (Nathan Gibbs)
- @wjchat Tangential question for the crowd: Would you publish Wikileaks documents? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:31:42Z
- bberwyn (Bob Berwyn)
- @spjchat Exactly! Have there been other accidents in that location? Are the city buses maintained adequately? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:31:45Z
- BrianManzullo (Brian Manzullo)
- RT @burtherman: Q2: I see Wikileaks as a source, and journalists are definitely needed to sift through all that info to give context #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:31:58Z
- mmmbutters (Michelle )
- Hey #wjchat. I’m late. I’m also just listening in while I work. Wish I could chat but too much going on in Canada’s interwebz.
- 2010-12-02T01:31:59Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- #WJChat #Q2 A journalist’s role in an age when anyone can report is to apply journalistic process and give context.
- 2010-12-02T01:32:16Z
- MyEugene (MyEugene)
- RT @sdulai: Q2B WikiLeaks is a fancy ass PR release firm. They just throw out the info & journos should pick it up & investigate it. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:32:22Z
- niltiac (Caitlin Fitzsimmons)
- @wjchat Q2 Storytelling + context, plus more investigative reporting, analysis of data, and coverage of under-reported topics. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:32:22Z
- sdulai (Shaminder Dulai)
- @verbalcupcake Perhaps I’m too close to see it? But I hope not. :) Challenge accepted :) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:32:26Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- A2: Journalists present facts in context. Others aren’t held to integrity and bias standards. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:32:30Z
- chelseabot (Chelsea Stark)
- @nathangibbs I would publish them if they actually were newsworthy, if they showed corruption. Otherwise, who benefits? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:32:34Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- @bberwyn .. Right on, brother! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:32:35Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @SDulai Fantastic! Keep in mind, we also *interpret* information in a slanted way as well, which means…#wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:32:41Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q3 Does the average news consumer really care if content is produced by someone “sanctioned” as a journalist? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:32:56Z
- gteresa (Teresa Gorman)
- @nathangibbs well…do you mean providing the docs you’re referring to when you report…you have to #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:33:04Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @SDulai …You can be as objective as you possibly are capable of, and still have people react in unanticipated ways. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:33:06Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @MyEugene @sdulai I disagree, PR is inherently biased. Raw source material is not. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:33:11Z
- Niketa (Niketa Patel)
- @burtherman Totally agreed. Was referring to it as an entity, wasn’t speaking about the actual content. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:33:17Z
- sdulai (Shaminder Dulai)
- @nathangibbs That’s good question. We’re supposed to verify everything right? But how do we? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:33:32Z
- kbeninato (Karen DaltonBeninato)
- Yes. RT @wjchat Q2B In light of this week’s news, what the heck is WikiLeaks? Reporter, source, journalist, tipsheet, other? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:33:36Z
- stephrguzman (Stephanie Guzman)
- Q2B: How many newsrooms are actually reading all the #Wikileaks? Most are probably repeating what other news org. have said about it #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:33:37Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- RT @wjchat: Q2B In light of this week’s news, what the heck is WikiLeaks? Reporter, source, journalist, tipsheet, other? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:33:39Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- RT @wjchat: Q3 Does the average news consumer really care if content is produced by someone “sanctioned” as a journalist? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:33:45Z
- niltiac (Caitlin Fitzsimmons)
- @Niketa No source should be treated as “objective”. Always look for the agenda. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:33:48Z
- MyEugene (MyEugene)
- Me too. RT @drapetomaniac: Q2B Wikileaks is a source, not a whistleblower…I wonder how news organizations are vetting the material #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:33:52Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- A3 the “avg news consumer” doesn’t understand the tenets of journalism. This is why journalism needs advocacy and watchdogs. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:33:56Z
- anarchytweet (Prince Peter)
- @webjournalist @wjchat WikiLeaks, Julian Assange is an anarchist as commentator said tonight. #wjchat RT @ValerieInRke
- 2010-12-02T01:34:04Z
- tatn (Tuyet A. N. T.)
- @stephrguzman agree,storyteller embellish on particular events.Journos can not do this,obvisly.I meant 2add the difference btw them #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:34:15Z
- stephrguzman (Stephanie Guzman)
- Q3 Good question. They do if there’s a mistake in the piece! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:34:15Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- @verbalcupcake @SDulai “Slanted” We hear/see with a slant – we’re only human. Let ppl call us on it though. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:34:20Z
- sdulai (Shaminder Dulai)
- Q3 HA! They could care less. But I do think they care when it comes to serious topics. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:34:23Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @verbalcupcake @SDulai some people have a tendency to argue facts. it’s imperative for journos to ignore the bait. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:34:32Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- @nathangibbs Yes. Beyond “do no harm,” yes. Everything public always. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:34:37Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- Q3: If they want to know the truth, I think readers do care where they are getting information. A “whom can you trust?” question #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:34:49Z
- stevesaldivar (Steve Saldivar)
- How would we know? RT @wjchat: Q3 Does the average news consumer care if content is produced by someone “sanctioned” as a journo? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:34:51Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @ryanjz If your “raw source material” was written by humans, it contains biases. All the more reason to investigate. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:35:02Z
- MyEugene (MyEugene)
- Yes, including Wikileaks > RT @niltiac: @Niketa No source should be treated as “objective”. Always look for the agenda. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:35:02Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- RT @wjchat: Q3 Does the average news consumer really care if content is produced by someone “sanctioned” as a journalist? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:35:04Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @sdulai @nathangibbs now you understand why it takes months for leaks to release #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:35:05Z
- greggvm (Gregg Morris)
- #wjchat Q3 Who is the “average news consumer” these days?
- 2010-12-02T01:35:11Z
- ClaudiaKoerner (Claudia Koerner)
- Q3 no. but the painstakingly reported, well-written pieces are likely the ones that will have more of an impact on them. i hope? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:35:15Z
- sdulai (Shaminder Dulai)
- @verbalcupcake I’ll grant you that. Once it’s out there, people interpret and bend it into all sorts of meanings. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:35:16Z
- lindaperrybarr (Linda Perry )
- Wikileaks is an information aggregate,based on docs by whistleblowers abt govt diplomacy, & ground level correspondences #cablegate #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:35:18Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- @tatn @stephrguzman That’s the right word “embellish.” #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:35:36Z
- gteresa (Teresa Gorman)
- A3 it is hard to say- but I do think the news consumer cares about who is delivering. Lots of ppl have attachments to @newshour folk #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:35:37Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- #WJChat #Q2b Wikileaks is a pipeline. A source originates information, a tipsheet has focus, a journalist gives context.
- 2010-12-02T01:35:41Z
- niltiac (Caitlin Fitzsimmons)
- @wjchat Q2B Wikileaks is a source, just like anybody that leaks documents. Or they’re an intermediary between source and reporter. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:35:43Z
- bberwyn (Bob Berwyn)
- RT @wjchat: Q3 Does the average news consumer really care if content is produced by someone “sanctioned” as a journalist? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:35:47Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- RT @wjchat: Q3 Does the average news consumer really care if content is produced by someone “sanctioned” as a journalist? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:35:52Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Q3 Does the average news consumer really care if content is produced by someone “sanctioned” as a journalist? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:35:57Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @anarchytweet @webjournalist @wjchat @ValerieInRke I don’t disagree that he’s an anarchist but many believe we need more of them. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:36:06Z
- Niketa (Niketa Patel)
- A3: I like to think the audience still needs to trust reporters, new orgs but it’s a tough balance with so much variety. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:36:08Z
- chelseabot (Chelsea Stark)
- Q3 With the decreasing amount of trust in news institutions vs. your friends, I think people are interested in sources they “know”. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:36:19Z
- sdulai (Shaminder Dulai)
- Q2B Just to clarify, when I called Wikileaks a PR firm, I didn’t mean public relations, I meant a place that distributes raw info #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:36:28Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Agreed. RT @ryanjz: @anarchytweet @ValerieInRke I don’t disagree that he’s an anarchist but many believe we need more of them. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:36:36Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- Q3: I think they care a lot less than we do, except for the big topics. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:36:37Z
- kbeninato (Karen DaltonBeninato)
- RT @niltiac: @Niketa No source should be treated as “objective”. Always look for the agenda. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:36:38Z
- marcusod (Marcus O’Donnell)
- What the is WikiLeaks? Reporter, source, journalist, tipsheet, other? – I’d say remarkable hybrid that challenges all those defs #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:36:41Z
- WebStoryTeller (Walter)
- @wjchat I don’t think consumers care who writes the news. Not any more. Watch vid on that topic: http://youtu.be/oHg5SJYRHA0 #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:36:41Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- Q3: No. They care if it’s right. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:36:56Z
- stevesaldivar (Steve Saldivar)
- RT @chelseabot: Q3 With the decreasing amount of trust in news institutions vs. your friends, I think people are interested in sources they “know”. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:36:59Z
- lindaperrybarr (Linda Perry )
- @wjchat Well certain news organizations have been pouring through the leaks longer than most of us #wikileaks #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:37:02Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- #WJChat #Q3 Apparently, most news consumers don’t care if news is by a “sanctioned” [as in "approved" or "professional"] journalist.
- 2010-12-02T01:37:02Z
- stephrguzman (Stephanie Guzman)
- @tatn thanks for the distinction #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:37:03Z
- bberwyn (Bob Berwyn)
- Q3 – What’s an “average” news consumer? Different people have different expectations. We write for many different audiences #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:37:08Z
- niltiac (Caitlin Fitzsimmons)
- @wjchat Q3 There seem to be two types of news consumers. Those that believe everything and the cynics that distrust everything. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:37:09Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- Q3: No, not at all – it’s all about the story/storytelling/context and truth. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:37:14Z
- darthcheeta (David Johnson)
- Q3: if there were inarguable standards that were transparent and understandable to qualify one as sanctioned, they would. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:37:17Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- Q3: People do care about the source, but the Web levels the playing field for who is mass media #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:37:19Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @verbalcupcake source material doesn’t contain opinions of itself. opinions develop from the context of the interpretation. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:37:26Z
- calliopeconsult (P L Mudd )
- RT @webjournalist: RT @wjchat: Q3 Does the average news consumer really care if content is produced by someone “sanctioned” as a journalist? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:37:38Z
- sdulai (Shaminder Dulai)
- @ValerieInRke @verbalcupcake Yes but part of being a journalist is to be aware of it and to always check yourself. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:37:54Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Q3 A good story is a good story… and it’s better w/ credibility. Do you need to be a “pro” to achieve this? No. Reads don’t care. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:38:02Z
- RobinJP (Robin Phillips)
- Q3 I think the audience still feels they own the media “my paper” “my station” and do care that it is credible #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:38:05Z
- drapetomaniac (Rich Vázquez)
- Q3 Consumers care about credibility, but often want their own views supported as part of that credibility #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:38:25Z
- sdulai (Shaminder Dulai)
- @ValerieInRke @verbalcupcake I plays devil’s advocate a lot with both sides and ask myself if I’ve been fair all the time. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:38:27Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- Like politics @niltiac: @wjchat Q3 There seem to be 2 types – Those that believe everything and the cynics that distrust everything. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:38:31Z
- The_Dean (Jason Dean)
- @wjchat People will consume the best produced journalism – be it by journalist, blogger, monkey at typewriter, etc. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:38:34Z
- danielhewitt (Dan Hewitt)
- RT @webjournalist: Q3 A good story is a good story… and it’s better w/ credibility. Do you need to be a “pro” to achieve this? No. Reads don’t care. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:38:37Z
- lindaperrybarr (Linda Perry )
- Agree RT@verbalcupcake @ryanjz If ur “raw source material” was written by humans, it contains biases-more reason to investigate. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:38:40Z
- FehmidaMalik (Fehmida Malik)
- A3 @wjchat No, the consumer doesn’t have a clue where the news come from! Nowadays they churn out the news as in UGC #wjchat #in
- 2010-12-02T01:38:41Z
- Anthony_Cave (Anthony Cave)
- Teenlink Sports Scene: LeBron’s return to Cleveland http://t.co/sIX18eZ #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:39:00Z
- niltiac (Caitlin Fitzsimmons)
- @wjchat We need better public media literacy so people can discern quality of content rather than judging credentials of journo. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:39:02Z
- nathangibbs (Nathan Gibbs)
- Q3: I think news users are smarter than we give them credit for. They trust news brands because of the journalistic process they use #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:39:12Z
- PatrickDParker (patrick parker)
- Jumping into #wjchat for a little
- 2010-12-02T01:39:14Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @greggvm the ‘avg consumer’ listens to the opinions of their associates all day and then distrusts the media for their differences. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:39:17Z
- darthcheeta (David Johnson)
- q3: there’s a reason why when normal people lie it isn’t called slander or libel. when journos do it, it hurts way more. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:39:31Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q4 What makes for a good story, despite form or technology? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:39:34Z
- gteresa (Teresa Gorman)
- the ‘avg consumer’ is a lot more involved,so altho they may not care abt a degree, they do care(+call you out) if something is wrong #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:39:34Z
- bberwyn (Bob Berwyn)
- @niltiac I see a much wider spectrum. I think you’re describing the extremes at either end. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:39:40Z
- niltiac (Caitlin Fitzsimmons)
- @wjchat Q3 In my experience, the public doesn’t care about a journo’s credentials – except when they want to make ad hominem attack. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:39:41Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- @chelseabot hmmm… “social” news? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:39:45Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @LisaGemini He’s just releasing source material … he’s not doing journalism. Is it newsworthy material? Not always. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:39:48Z
- Amadeus3000 (Anthony Capps)
- Q3: I think we the community too much credit that they care. Most of the time, they wouldn’t recognize a difference. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:39:53Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @ryanjz This arg could go on forever. But the source mat. you speak of is not a coffee cup–it’s documents containing communication. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:39:55Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Q4 What makes for a good story, despite form or technology? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:40:11Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- #WJChat #Q3 The question demands to be begged: Is there such a thing as *just* a news consumer anymore, when anyone can create?
- 2010-12-02T01:40:15Z
- nathangibbs (Nathan Gibbs)
- Q3: News users know the difference between a story, its comments, and don’t blindly read blogs with absolute trust. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:40:20Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- RT @wjchat: Q4 What makes for a good story, despite form or technology? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:40:22Z
- marcusod (Marcus O’Donnell)
- I think good practice “sanctions” journalism not mere professional accreditation. The “general reader” is *beginning* to see this #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:40:26Z
- niltiac (Caitlin Fitzsimmons)
- @darthcheeta Not so. It’s still slander/libel whether it’s a journalist or a “normal person”. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:40:31Z
- lindaperrybarr (Linda Perry )
- @ryanjz @anarchytweet @webjournalist @wjchat @ValerieInRke Disagree, prefer not to label him & deal w #cablegate instead #wikileaks #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:40:37Z
- chelseabot (Chelsea Stark)
- @SarahDayOwen social news, or the importance of social media presence for journos. But people do care most what their friends think #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:40:47Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- Hey #usguys, feel free to pop in to #wjchat where we are discussing wikileaks and the habits of the avg. news consumer.
- 2010-12-02T01:40:48Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Q4 It must resonate with its community. It must be relevant. It must be about the world around me and my role in it. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:40:54Z
- PatrickDParker (patrick parker)
- RT @SaleemChat: Q3 The ? demands to be begged: Is there such a thing as *just* a news consumer anymore, when anyone can create? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:40:55Z
- hilljohng (John Hill)
- RT @DSMacLeod: Q3: No. They care if it’s right. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:41:03Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- RT @chelseabot: W/ the decreasing amt of trust in news inst vs. yr friends, I think people are interested in sources they “know” #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:41:07Z
- sdulai (Shaminder Dulai)
- @ryanjz @nathangibbs Sorry I think I missed part of the convo… how do I understand that it takes months for leaks to release? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:41:25Z
- niltiac (Caitlin Fitzsimmons)
- @nathangibbs But, so much of the news brands’ “reportage” comes from PR firms. Especially in TV to a shocking extent! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:41:33Z
- jrstahl (Jessica Stahl)
- Q4 Often it’s the human element. Something that lets people connect emotionally to the story #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:41:34Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @ryanjz That communication likely has complicated history. Best to unravel that history if u r going to report on the communication. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:41:37Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- #WJChat #Q4 What makes a good story? Relevance: Connecting to the audience/community in some way. That means context.
- 2010-12-02T01:41:39Z
- jdb820 (Jason Bereza)
- I think Wikileaks are good for democracy. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:41:40Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- RT @hilljohng: RT @DSMacLeod: Q3: No. They care if its right. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:41:42Z
- annieshreff (annieshreffler)
- RT @SaleemChat: #WJChat The question demands to be begged: Is there such a thing as *just* a news consumer anymore, when anyone can create?
- 2010-12-02T01:41:53Z
- lindaperrybarr (Linda Perry )
- @sdulai @ryanjz @nathangibbs maybe fine tooth comb has to do w/it #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:41:59Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- A subject, an action, a result — compellingly told. RT @wjchat: Q4 What makes for a good story, despite form or technology? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:42:05Z
- stephencearley (Steve Earley)
- Q4: Rich details. This is another reason, from Q1, that reporting and storytelling go hand in hand. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:42:05Z
- sdulai (Shaminder Dulai)
- Q4 Stories that make you feel something. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:42:14Z
- marcusod (Marcus O’Donnell)
- Move frm “sanctioning” journalists to “sanctioning” jrnalism as practice is exactly what gets legacy media in a tis. Emperor/clothes #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:42:23Z
- adriannaamato (Adrianna Amato)
- @wjchat Q4 how does the story relate to my life? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:42:35Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- Q4: A story has a narrative flow, grabs the reader’s attention, gives them a good ride, and a nice resolution at the end #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:42:36Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @verbalcupcake @ryanjz a doc is only more interesting than cup if you write about what’s in it. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:42:43Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q4B What makes for a good storyteller? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:42:44Z
- lindaperrybarr (Linda Perry )
- RT @wjchat what makes for a good story? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:42:44Z
- niltiac (Caitlin Fitzsimmons)
- @SDulai It takes months to release the leaks because of the verification process. @guardian had the Wikileaks info in August. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:42:46Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- Q4: A good story is one that people will discus with their friends, something that hits home for them. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:42:53Z
- Niketa (Niketa Patel)
- A4: Relevance, substance, form, accuracy & presentation/tools make for a good story. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:43:01Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- RT @wjchat: Q4B What makes for a good storyteller? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:43:03Z
- RobinJP (Robin Phillips)
- @marcusod hey, you. nice to see you at #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:43:05Z
- Martha_Kang (Martha Kang)
- Missing #wjchat today due to #workoverload. :(
- 2010-12-02T01:43:36Z
- niltiac (Caitlin Fitzsimmons)
- @SDulai The @guardian gave Wikileaks info to @nytimes but only a few weeks ago. Le Monde, Der Spiegel, El Pais also had info. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:43:36Z
- lsneslin (Lenny Neslin)
- @wjchat Intimate and visual details. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:43:41Z
- RobinJP (Robin Phillips)
- RT @marcusod: I think good practice “sanctions” journalism not mere professional accreditation. The “general reader” is *beginning* to see this #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:43:49Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- Q4B: Great storytellers are people who notice the little things that bring something to life, great stories have great details #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:43:49Z
- gteresa (Teresa Gorman)
- Q4: It should be the “martha did you see this effect” as my old profs used to say- people want to share it #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:43:55Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- RT @kimbui: Q4: A good story is one that people will discus with their friends, something that hits home for them. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:43:56Z
- stephrguzman (Stephanie Guzman)
- Agree w/ @kimbui Good story is something they tell other ppl #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:43:58Z
- malexjohnson (Alex Johnson)
- Q4. “Hey, Mabel, did you see this?” When you strip everything else away, that’s a good story. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:43:58Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @sdulai @nathangibbs how to verify documents, it is a long and tedious process, many times socially engineering subject to validate #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:44:08Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- The best stories make me learn something, feel something, care about the subject. The very, very best have lovely sentences to boot. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:44:13Z
- niltiac (Caitlin Fitzsimmons)
- @SDulai The news organizations worked together so that there was enough time to verify and analyze but not to scoop each other. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:44:23Z
- gteresa (Teresa Gorman)
- @malexjohnson or mabel :) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:44:32Z
- bberwyn (Bob Berwyn)
- @jrstahl Yes and no – too many times journos stretch too far to make that human connection, then it seems cheezy and overwrought #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:44:48Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- Love it. RT @MAlexJohnson Q4. “Hey, Mabel, did you see this?” When you strip everything else away, that’s a good story. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:44:49Z
- annieshreff (annieshreffler)
- @niltiac #wjchat I recently heard the figure 7:1 flacks to journos now, in speech to urging students to consider careers in journalism.
- 2010-12-02T01:44:50Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- A4 a good story teller remembers his beginning, his middle, and to cover his end. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:44:58Z
- billiegirltoo (billiegirltoo)
- RT @burtherman: Q4B: Great storytellers are people who notice the little things that bring something to life, great stories have great details #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:45:00Z
- ClaudiaKoerner (Claudia Koerner)
- @bberwyn ooh yes, spare me from overwrought anecdotal ledes :) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:45:07Z
- malexjohnson (Alex Johnson)
- RT @gteresa: @malexjohnson or mabel :) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:45:14Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- RT @bberwyn: @jrstahl too many times journos stretch too far to make that human connection, then it seems cheezy and overwrought #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:45:19Z
- chelseabot (Chelsea Stark)
- @wjchat A good storyteller is someone who can make us feel things with their ability to weave a narrative. Or make us think. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:45:22Z
- gteresa (Teresa Gorman)
- MT @burtherman Great storytellers are people who notice the little things that bring something to life #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:45:25Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @gteresa @malexjohnson Hahahahaha! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:45:28Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @bberwyn: @jrstahl Yes & no – 2 many times journos stretch 2 far to make that human connection then it seems cheezy & overwrought #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:45:29Z
- washdcnews (Washington DC News )
- RT @Niketa: A2B: Wikileaks is neither friend or foe – they should be treated like an objective source. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:45:33Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- #WJChat #Q4 What makes a good storyteller makes a good journalist, only refined: Curiosity, ability to LISTEN and synthesize
- 2010-12-02T01:45:33Z
- ClaudiaKoerner (Claudia Koerner)
- RT @gteresa: Q4: It should be the “martha did you see this effect” as my old profs used to say- people want to share it #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:45:33Z
- FehmidaMalik (Fehmida Malik)
- One concern 4 wikileaks is whether all ‘related’ cables to a topic surfaced. One missing link can put it out of context #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:45:35Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @ClaudiaKoerner: @bberwyn ooh yes, spare me from overwrought anecdotal ledes :) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:45:40Z
- marcusod (Marcus O’Donnell)
- Q4 Good stories cant be “despite form or technology”. Best stories are appropriate to their medium. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:45:52Z
- hilljohng (John Hill)
- @malexjohnson We call ‘em “Hey Marthas,” but Mabel works. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:46:07Z
- nathangibbs (Nathan Gibbs)
- Q4: A good story is relevant to the users life. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:46:14Z
- scottleadingham (Scott Leadingham)
- Late to #wjchat – Looks like a great topic: storytelling.
- 2010-12-02T01:46:21Z
- greggvm (Gregg Morris)
- RT @burtherman Great storytellers R people who notice the little things that bring something 2 life, GR8 stories have great details #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:46:29Z
- niltiac (Caitlin Fitzsimmons)
- @wjchat Q4 Good story has human interest & characters but says something about larger issues. Good journo also stays true to facts. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:46:35Z
- kbeninato (Karen DaltonBeninato)
- The What Would Dorothy Dix Do rule of thumb. RT @wjchat Q4B What makes for a good storyteller? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:46:40Z
- hilljohng (John Hill)
- RT @ryanjz: A4 a good story teller remembers his beginning, his middle, and to cover his end. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:46:51Z
- gteresa (Teresa Gorman)
- @wjchat never get in the way of the story. If you want to show off your ‘great’ writing, you’re doomed #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:47:00Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Q4B What makes for a good storyteller? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:47:03Z
- jrstahl (Jessica Stahl)
- @bberwyn @claudiakoerner True…sometimes best stories tell themselves- journo has to be smart and step back ex) http://ow.ly/3ixfT #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:47:06Z
- malexjohnson (Alex Johnson)
- Older types like me from Southern papers call ‘em “Hey, Mabels.” RT @hilljohng: We call ‘em “Hey Marthas,” but Mabel works. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:47:25Z
- EricDye (Eric M. Dye)
- A4: Good story tellers lay it out in a passionate detailed manner & in a way that it effect them emotionally #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:47:26Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Q4B Someone how can take diverse elements and put them together to make me care. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:47:30Z
- PatrickDParker (patrick parker)
- RT @burtherman Great storytellers R people who notice the little things that bring something 2 life, GR8 stories have great details #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:47:50Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @verbalcupcake oh, i agree with that completely. I just think ppl try to oversimplify the investigative aspects of journalism. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:47:55Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- Q4B: A good storyteller is an astute observer with the skill to select the right words in brevity. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:48:03Z
- ClaudiaKoerner (Claudia Koerner)
- @wjchat and also, what can we do to become better storytellers? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:48:06Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @wjchat @jrstahl A great storyteller doesn’t have to do that stretching–in his/her hands, story appears seamlessly knit together. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:48:14Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- RT @hilljohng: RT @ryanjz: A4 a good story teller remembers his beginning, his middle, and to cover his end. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:48:23Z
- jacquelynryan (jacquelyn ryan)
- RT @wjchat: RT @ClaudiaKoerner: @bberwyn ooh yes, spare me from overwrought anecdotal ledes :) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:48:36Z
- scottleadingham (Scott Leadingham)
- Q4B – What makes a good journalistic storyteller? Tom Hallman Jr, one of the best, said recently: emotion. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:48:57Z
- Niketa (Niketa Patel)
- @niltiac Good point. We all have some kind of agenda right? :) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:49:13Z
- DavidClinchNews (David Clinch)
- @wjchat Q4 Being Irish helps :) A good story tells itself and people should come away caring about story not the storyteller #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:49:14Z
- malexjohnson (Alex Johnson)
- Q4. I’m wary of saying “this” or “that” makes a good story. Stories are unique; they’ll let you know you the best way to tell them. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:49:17Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q5 What are your favorite and least favorite forms of consuming a story? Print, Mag, Radio, TV, Web, mobile, tablet or other? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:49:21Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- Q4: Great advice from a former prof of mine: 1) Paint ‘em a picture; 2) Tell ‘em a story; 3) And be original, dammit (writing style) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:49:27Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- Me too @SaleemChat @lindaperrybarr @jrstahl @ValerieInRke What does what mean? I’ve lost the thread. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:49:37Z
- nathangibbs (Nathan Gibbs)
- @webjournalist Love that: “make me care” #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:49:38Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- RT @webjournalist: Q4B Someone how can take diverse elements and put them together to make me care. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:49:41Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- Finding stories where others don’t. RT @wjchat: Q4B What makes for a good storyteller? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:49:51Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @SDulai @ValerieInRke Most stories have more than two (“both”) sides… #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:49:54Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- RT @ValerieInRke: Q4B: A good storyteller is an astute observer with the skill to select the right words in brevity. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:50:07Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @wjchat A4b Experience in framing context for readers of all levels of awareness in the source is vital. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:50:38Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- A5 Print and Mag are my least fav. Just feels dated. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:50:53Z
- malexjohnson (Alex Johnson)
- But @webjournalist’s “make me care” comes pretty close. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:50:59Z
- stephrguzman (Stephanie Guzman)
- Q5 Listening on my iPhone! But I’m biased because I’m radio :) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:50:59Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- Word. RT @DSMacLeod Finding stories where others don’t. RT @wjchat: Q4B What makes for a good storyteller? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:51:05Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- @RobinJP My concern with adding “storytelling” to journalism is the negative fiction element this introduces. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:51:08Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- RT @wjchat: Q5 What are your favorite and least favorite forms of … a story? Print, Mag, Radio, TV, Web, mobile, tablet or other? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:51:09Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Q5 What are your favorite and least favorite forms of consuming a story? Print, Mag, Radio, TV, Web, mobile, or other? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:51:16Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- Q5: I really don’t like reading stories on my phone. I check Twitter all day for updates, but I rarely read a whole story on it. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:51:21Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- Q4B: Good storytelling now also means not thinking of a “story” as just words or images, we now have a more versatile canvas #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:51:28Z
- sdulai (Shaminder Dulai)
- @wjchat @ClaudiaKoerner @bberwyn Bob sat on the stoop, his life changed when his phone rang. “wjChat now!” #anecdotalsmartassry #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:51:30Z
- lindaperrybarr (Linda Perry )
- A4 Golden Video, crisp narrative, great clips -this all brings stories to life. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:51:32Z
- scottleadingham (Scott Leadingham)
- @spjchat Re Q4 and your former prof’s advice: Agreed! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:51:36Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @LisaGemini objectivity, when artfully done, is the pinnacle of journalistic excellence. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:51:37Z
- PatrickDParker (patrick parker)
- Q4: Web #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:51:48Z
- Shawnmontano (Shawn Montano)
- RT @burtherman: Q4B: Good storytelling now also means not thinking of a “story” as just words or images, we now have a more versatile canvas #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:51:52Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- @lindaperrybarr That’s if you dress facts up as a story, as opposed to introduce fiction to journalism! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:51:53Z
- stephrguzman (Stephanie Guzman)
- @ryanjz I dunno I love holding a good magazine. There’s something about it. GQ, Wired. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:52:01Z
- PatrickDParker (patrick parker)
- Well I guess that was really Q5 #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:52:05Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- RT @spjchat: Q4:Great advice from a former prof of mine:1)Paint em a picture;2) Tell em a story;3)be original,dammit (writing style) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:52:07Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Q5 A good story? Hmm… when I have time, it’s still radio and print (broadsheet and/or magazine). #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:52:13Z
- marcusod (Marcus O’Donnell)
- Jumping in w/ something off topic for my OS friends please check out #twitdef tag. Jrnalism educator under attack frm Murdoch press #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:52:30Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @stephrguzman i love reading features in mags too, I just don’t value them as a “news” source. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:52:33Z
- ClaudiaKoerner (Claudia Koerner)
- @SDulai *Insert description about Annie’s typical morning* But Annie is different from other children/women/elephants. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:52:35Z
- gteresa (Teresa Gorman)
- @wjchat sometimes, I just need to sit down with something concrete for those long form stories- @stephrguzman I agree #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:52:40Z
- Niketa (Niketa Patel)
- Q5: Web & tablet are my fav. storytelling platforms. They have the sway to tango with all of our senses. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:52:40Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- Q5 Do I have to choose? Depends on the story that’s being told, and how. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:52:44Z
- jrstahl (Jessica Stahl)
- @stephrguzman @ryanjz Totally agree. And I’ll read stories in a mag I’d never stop for on the web #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:52:53Z
- lindaperrybarr (Linda Perry )
- @NicWirtz hunh? why would you do that? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:52:59Z
- gteresa (Teresa Gorman)
- RT @SarahDayOwen: Q5 Do I have to choose? Depends on the story thats being told, and how. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:53:08Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @stephrguzman but i’m biased, i LOVE long-tail investigative features. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:53:18Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Q5 Least favorite? Jeez… we’re talking good stories? I think TV. I’m sorry. Love mini docs, by nightly news stories not-so-much. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:53:25Z
- ClaudiaKoerner (Claudia Koerner)
- The only time I have to stop and enjoy a good story is when I’m in transit — radio and magazines are best for that. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:53:27Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @wjchat Q5 I still love curling on the couch with The New Yorker. I love great writing and like that they still focus on that first. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:53:28Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- Q5: Longer stories in magazines. When papers do huge stories, unless they’re a big deal, I lose interest. Weird, but medium matters. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:53:34Z
- tatn (Tuyet A. N. T.)
- @wjchat #wjchat Q.4 Well written stories w verifiable info will shine on their own. Each story is unique dependent on the event/ppl involved
- 2010-12-02T01:53:51Z
- lindaperrybarr (Linda Perry )
- A5 I’m in the mkt for a phone which would be a better storytelling tool than an iPhone. Any ideas #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:53:59Z
- sdulai (Shaminder Dulai)
- @ClaudiaKoerner Which reminds me of Erni the new elephant at the zoo, he dreams of home… Haha, anyone want to write Amile2? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:54:00Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- adding a lot of follows, great convos tonight! #wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:54:00Z
- jenkuglin (Jenny Kuglin)
- Q5 Primarily web… but also magazines! #wjchat (TV when it is longer form) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:54:05Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- Q5: Paper won’t be around for much longer, look forward to tablets as thin as paper with infinite battery life, always connected #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:54:08Z
- hilljohng (John Hill)
- RT @spjchat: Q4: Great advice from a former prof of mine: 1) Paint ‘em a picture; 2) Tell ‘em a story; 3) And be original, dammit (writing style) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:54:12Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @wjchat So I guess I would say I still love getting great stories in print. Daily news I get on the web. Exclusively. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:54:17Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- #wjchat A2b WikiLeaks is not a pure anything thus so difficult to categorise. It’s mainly a source, its partners do the journalism.
- 2010-12-02T01:54:31Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- @lindaperrybarr That was my complaint about negative connotations of the term storytelling. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:54:48Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- Q5: I love folding a newspaper, but sadly, I never have time for them. I get most of my stuff on the web and radio. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:54:53Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- #WJChat #Q5 Depends on what I’m doing. Favourite to least sans context: Web, tablet, mobile, print, TV, magazine, Web video.
- 2010-12-02T01:54:53Z
- greggvm (Gregg Morris)
- RT @verbalcupcake I still love curling on the couch w/The New Yorker. I love great writing & like that they still focus on that 1st. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:54:56Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @lindaperrybarr any phone that has a “storify this” app @storify #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:55:02Z
- EricDye (Eric M. Dye)
- A5: Favorite way is Radio/Podcasting could be online, or on mobile device this is most convenient staying productive. TV/Video 2nd, #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:55:12Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- Q5: I have a special place in my heart for radio. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:55:26Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- @spjchat Not unless Johnny answers the what, who, why, where and how in his tweet. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:55:31Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @hilljohng you’ve told that story here before, never gets old! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:55:34Z
- kbeninato (Karen DaltonBeninato)
- Favorite is newsprint, least favorite mobile until I get an i-pad @wjchat Q5 Favorite and least favorite forms of consuming a story? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:55:38Z
- EricDye (Eric M. Dye)
- @DSMacLeod me too…have a LARGE place in my heart for radio! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:55:50Z
- ClaudiaKoerner (Claudia Koerner)
- Surprised how many of us are saying radio. Guess we’re all NPR fan boys and girls? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:55:52Z
- stephrguzman (Stephanie Guzman)
- @ryanjz True. But not all news is in wire form. “Boom” piece in GQ about oil spill-I learned something new and relevant. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:55:52Z
- nathangibbs (Nathan Gibbs)
- Where do you draw the line? “@LisaGemini: I’d publish Wikileaks docs if I’d made sure they were true. But nat’l security comes 1st” #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:55:58Z
- scottleadingham (Scott Leadingham)
- @DSMacLeod What would keep your interest in a long-form newspaper piece like a mag? Glossy page? Full-page graphics? Better layout? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:56:03Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- Q5: All sources work with right content. Long story in print – tablet then is best. Get comfy with a glass of wine. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:56:22Z
- annieshreff (annieshreffler)
- Q5 #wjchat depends on my location: car or kitchen=radio, downtime=print, in a queue=phone….
- 2010-12-02T01:56:24Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- Q5 Oh, & I’ll repeat my lament: Ppl, if you’re tweeting links to your site, I’d appreciate it if the site were mobile compatible. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:56:29Z
- stephrguzman (Stephanie Guzman)
- RT @lindaperrybarr: A5 I’m in the mkt for a phone which would be a better storytelling tool than an iPhone. Any ideas #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:56:36Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- Q5 —Depends on the story, but I still love curling up with a print mag or paper on the couch. But love interactives on the web. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:56:48Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q6 Tools like @Storify, @curatedby, @keepstream are focusing on aggregation. What role does a journo have there? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:56:56Z
- solete (Anne S.)
- @ryanjz What is the #wjchat about? #usguys
- 2010-12-02T01:57:08Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Q6 Tools like @Storify, @curatedby, @keepstream are focusing on aggregation. What role does a journo have there? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:57:09Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- Q5 – Really haven’t done much with iPad or tablet, but I totally can see myself enjoying it when I do get one. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:57:13Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- #WJChat #Q5 Anything in my list before TV I can do with TV as background. I guess that makes TV my least favourite. Web video’s a hassle.
- 2010-12-02T01:57:16Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @stephrguzman sure, but that’s akin to the feature writing I was talking about, not “breaking news” in print, so to speak. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:57:22Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- @scottleadingham @DSMacLeod “interest” good photog – picture worth a thousand words. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:57:25Z
- gteresa (Teresa Gorman)
- me, too. Yes, @ClaudiaKoerner I’m a fan girl! RT @DSMacLeod: Q5: I have a special place in my heart for radio. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:57:24Z
- sdulai (Shaminder Dulai)
- Q5 I still love the newspaper or a magazine, something tangible that has texture, smells, folds that i can rip up and pin to a wall #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:57:25Z
- gteresa (Teresa Gorman)
- me, too. Yes, @ClaudiaKoerner I’m a fan girl! RT @DSMacLeod: Q5: I have a special place in my heart for radio. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:57:28Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- #wjchat A3 If the average consumer can move from papers to online seemlessly, they’re not going to care who wrote the story.
- 2010-12-02T01:57:40Z
- RobinJP (Robin Phillips)
- RT @burtherman Q5: Paper won’t be around much longer, look forward to paper-thin tablets, infinite battery life, always connected #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:57:44Z
- chelseabot (Chelsea Stark)
- @wjchat I hate touching newsprint, seriously. At this point I like reading on web or my iPad, and leaving the tab up if it’s long. #wjchat.
- 2010-12-02T01:57:51Z
- jrstahl (Jessica Stahl)
- @wjchat Q6 Everything! Where we add value is in aggregating, filtering, curating, contextualizing the firehose #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:57:52Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @lisagemini mainstream has shareholders, divisive editorials drive sales. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:58:19Z
- niltiac (Caitlin Fitzsimmons)
- @annieshreff I wouldn’t urge any students to consider careers in journalism. The jobs are shrinking. Supply is not an issue. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:58:20Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- To my followers: expect lots of tweets from #wjchat, a great chat on online journalism. Join in, it’s fun!
- 2010-12-02T01:58:27Z
- lindaperrybarr (Linda Perry )
- & 4 video-shoot like ur walking in water @hilljohng MT@spjchat ..Paint ‘em a picture-Tell ‘em a story-& be original, dammit #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:58:28Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- I love and hate it. But kinda love it more. RT @chelseabot: @wjchat I hate touching newsprint, seriously. … #wjchat.
- 2010-12-02T01:58:29Z
- chelseabot (Chelsea Stark)
- @wjchat a journo still has to search and be able to use news judgment, tell fact from fiction. that’s what @mediagazer learned. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:58:32Z
- nathangibbs (Nathan Gibbs)
- Q5: My favorite are radio and photo essays. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:58:33Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @wjchat The same role as always: making sense of the information. Not all of it will be good, not all of it will be necessary. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:58:41Z
- ClaudiaKoerner (Claudia Koerner)
- @gteresa I get a little excited when I work Saturday shifts because then I can listen to Car Talk and Wait Wait. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:58:49Z
- sdulai (Shaminder Dulai)
- Q6 Providing the stories for those tools to aggregate, & those are tools, I don’t get why ppl always get flustered about new things #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:58:56Z
- hilljohng (John Hill)
- Q5: I love all story forms at times but I’m becoming more picky w glut of content. Don’t read as much spinach journalism as I did. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:58:56Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- #wjchat A3 Thinking that only a journalist can do journalism is elitist old school journalism at its best.
- 2010-12-02T01:59:02Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- RT @maiphoang: Q5 —Depends on the story, but I still love curling up with a print mag or paper on the couch.But love web interactive #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:59:02Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @solete #wjchat focuses on web journalism and is hosted by @webjournalist (Robert Hernandez) of the #ona board and is a prof. at USC Ann.
- 2010-12-02T01:59:15Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- @scottleadingham Not sure. There’s something about the medium with me: Even Harper’s (few photos) I can hang with on a long piece. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:59:18Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- RT @wjchat: Q6 Tools like @Storify, @Curatedby, @keepstream are focusing on aggregation. What role does a journo have there? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:59:28Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- #WJChat #Q6 Aggregation tools like @Storify, @curatedby, @keepstream demand strong editorial skill to curate/tell a story well
- 2010-12-02T01:59:31Z
- niltiac (Caitlin Fitzsimmons)
- @SDulai AFAIK, Wikileaks doesn’t verify and filter. But journos should still verify and filter what other journos report anyway. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:59:33Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- Q6 Journo has role curating, showing context — it’s a form of storytelling #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:59:36Z
- annieshreff (annieshreffler)
- RT @wjchat: Q6 Tools like @Storify, @curatedby, @keepstream are focusing on aggregation. What role does a journo have there? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:59:38Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- Ditto! RT @gteresa me, too. Yes, @ClaudiaKoerner I’m a fan girl! RT @DSMacLeod: Q5: I have a special place in my heart for radio. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:59:45Z
- Niketa (Niketa Patel)
- A6 When journos moderate/curate, they have a chance to dive right into the community to engage audiences, cultivate new sources, etc #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T01:59:48Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- Q6: Add history, more context and make it a story if it is blah! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:00:04Z
- scottleadingham (Scott Leadingham)
- Q5 By far, my favorite story-consumption medium is radio. Nothing beats “This American Life” on a weekend! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:00:11Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @solete #wjchat is the first and longest running twitter chat and currently the only “major” journo related #usguys
- 2010-12-02T02:00:14Z
- girljournalist (Staci Baird)
- Q5 It depends on the story & where I am when it gets my attn. I need info on mobile, want stories in print, web, tablet, tv, radio. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:00:18Z
- lindaperrybarr (Linda Perry )
- @NicWirtz @lindaperrybarr yeah but there r great rptrs who are craftsmen..they get the info and craft stories-we’re tlkng those guys #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:00:24Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- @lindaperrybarr And certain other news organisations have been running spoilers for the same time :) #wikileaks #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:00:27Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- I love all the radio love in here #warmandcozy #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:00:30Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- Q6: Storify is about helping journalists find the best stuff on social media, give context and turn it into stories #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:00:34Z
- nathangibbs (Nathan Gibbs)
- Q6: Selecting the most important quotations, same as any story. New tools make for easier use of social quotations. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:00:52Z
- niltiac (Caitlin Fitzsimmons)
- @hilljohng @ValerieInRke Yes, but they then believe everything Fox says and disebelieve everyone else. Perfect hybrid! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:00:53Z
- stephrguzman (Stephanie Guzman)
- RT @kimbui: I love all the radio love in here #warmandcozy #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:01:08Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- @RobinJP The “my media” concept has been round since the mid 90s, still yet to see it happen but technology more suited now. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:01:15Z
- EricDye (Eric M. Dye)
- With you ALL THE WAY “RADIO” – RT @kimbui: I love all the radio love in here #warmandcozy #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:01:17Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- A6 journos use curation as a story building tool, not a story telling tool unless used to sort crowdsourced material. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:01:20Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- @nathangibbs Agree! It’s just like quoting sources as before, only now much easier to pull from a wider variety of voices #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:01:24Z
- RobinJP (Robin Phillips)
- Q5 Aggregation can increase the role of editor .. and journos still needed to do the stories that will be aggregated. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:01:26Z
- niltiac (Caitlin Fitzsimmons)
- @bberwyn There is certainly a wider spectrum but the media literate people in the middle seem to be vanishingly small. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:01:32Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- Q6: Journalists are made to curate. Curating is all news judgement. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:01:48Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- RT @burtherman: Q6: Storify is about helping journalists find the best stuff on social media, give context and turn it into stories #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:01:54Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- RT @SaleemChat: #WJChat #Q6 Aggregation tools like @Storify, @curatedby, @keepstream demand strong editorial skill to tell a story #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:01:54Z
- niltiac (Caitlin Fitzsimmons)
- @bberwyn Being cynical about all media seems to pass as media literacy among some surprisingly smart, educated folks. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:01:56Z
- scottleadingham (Scott Leadingham)
- Agreed. RT @kimbui: I love all the radio love in here #warmandcozy #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:01:56Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @ryanjz I think @stephrguzman is responding to the fact that you said that writing feels “dated.” But the truly great stuff is not. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:02:06Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- Q6: Journalists’ fundamental mission hasn’t changed – just the tools and sources have. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:02:08Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- Q6 — Based on my experience (mostly with @storify), the journalists role is to pick out the cream of the crop. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:02:16Z
- dshaw (Daniel Shaw)
- RT @burtherman: Q4B: Great storytellers are people who notice the little things that bring something to life, great stories have great details #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:02:17Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- #WJChat #Q6 Burt, I’d be interested in your take on the other services mentioned, if it’s not too impolitic. cc @BurtHerman
- 2010-12-02T02:02:20Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Well said. RT @burtherman: Q6: Journalists’ fundamental mission hasn’t changed – just the tools and sources have. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:02:34Z
- EricDye (Eric M. Dye)
- RT @webjournalist: Well said. RT @burtherman: Q6: Journalists’ fundamental mission hasn’t changed – just the tools and sources have. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:02:39Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- @lindaperrybarr Absolutely crafting a story is a talent but journalists, authors, writers, bloggers can all do so. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:02:40Z
- hbillings (Heather Billings)
- @sdulai Interpreting facts != stating opinion. The way you choose to tell any story (context, voice, etc.) is an interpretation. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:02:43Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- @scottleadingham Also, I think magazine pieces tend to be structured better when longform. Papers are designed to be quick reads. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:02:43Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- [+1] RT @burtherman: Q6: Journalists’ fundamental mission hasn’t changed – just the tools and sources have. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:02:50Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- RT @webjournalist: Well said. RT @burtherman: Q6: Journalists fundamental mission hasnt changed – just the tools and sources have. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:02:59Z
- girljournalist (Staci Baird)
- Gotta admit, I LOVE mags & still prefer print versions. Most tablet mag experiences just suck. But kudos to publishers for trying! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:03:03Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @verbalcupcake @stephrguzman i didn’t mean to say all print content is “dated” only the act of seeking “breaking news” via print #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:03:15Z
- chelseabot (Chelsea Stark)
- @burtherman since you demoed @storify to our class, I can’t tell you how many times we’ve incorporated into projects this semester. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:03:17Z
- hbillings (Heather Billings)
- Frantically trying to catch up on the #wjchat portion I missed during my trip home from school…
- 2010-12-02T02:03:21Z
- bberwyn (Bob Berwyn)
- RT @sdulai: @wjchat @ClaudiaKoerner @bberwyn Bob sat on the stoop, his life changed when his phone rang. “wjChat now!” #anecdotalsmartassry #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:03:28Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- Q6 — It’s like being an art museum curator. You pick the best paintings and you put them together to tell a story. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:03:33Z
- P0TUS (Barracks O’Bama)
- RT @niltiac: @bberwyn There is certainly a wider spectrum but the media literate people in the middle seem to be vanishingly small. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:03:37Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @burtherman Not always a “wider variety of voices,” though, particularly when those who don’t have access to tech not acknowledged. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:03:37Z
- RobinJP (Robin Phillips)
- @NicWirtz I mean “my media” in a community, local resident sense. People feel they own the media. Journos are stewards. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:03:42Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- @burtherman Agreed — loved @Storify the two times I’ve used it — election day and hometown concert of Lady Antebellum (diverse!) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:03:55Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- Holler. RT @kimbui: Q6: Journalists are made to curate. Curating is all news judgement. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:04:00Z
- tatn (Tuyet A. N. T.)
- RT @Niketa: A6 When journos moderate/curate, they have a chance to dive right into the community to engage audiences, cultivate new sources, etc #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:04:03Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- @lindaperrybarr @verbalcupcake Surely a major part of the #wikileaks story is the bias shown by the cables? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:04:03Z
- matttbastard (Matthew Elliot)
- RT @webjournalist: Well said. RT @burtherman: Q6: Journalists’ fundamental mission hasn’t changed – just the tools and sources have. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:04:07Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- Agreed! RT @girljournalist: Gotta admit, I LOVE mags & still prefer print versions. Most tablet mag experiences just suck. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:04:22Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- @chelseabot Glad to hear! Would love to get your feedback and suggestions for what we can improve #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:04:28Z
- bberwyn (Bob Berwyn)
- @niltiac There’s an acceptable level of healthy cynicism, in my mind. Heck, I’m cynical about a lot of media #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:04:37Z
- DavidClinchNews (David Clinch)
- @wjchat Q6 There is a big difference between aggregation and professional curation. There is no algorithm for Journalism! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:04:44Z
- girljournalist (Staci Baird)
- Q6: Well, I still believe that a human touch is needed. All that info needs an editor/curator. Am I wrong? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:04:52Z
- EricDye (Eric M. Dye)
- A5 (Cont) Isn’t the lay out of print whether it’s a newspaper or magazine dictate whether it will be read? Similar to web site …#wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:04:53Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @ryanjz Aha. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:05:13Z
- bberwyn (Bob Berwyn)
- @niltiac Agreed, the “middle class” is shrinking #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:05:17Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- RT @bberwyn: @niltiac Theres an acceptable level of healthy cynicism, in my mind. Heck, Im cynical about a lot of media #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:05:26Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q7 Do we run the risk of the bells and whistles of technology driving/overshadowing the story? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:05:26Z
- stephrguzman (Stephanie Guzman)
- agree w/ @ryanjz @verbalcupcake There’s a radio billboard ad that says “Honey don’t read the paper that’s the news from yesterday!” #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:05:45Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- RT @wjchat: Q7 Do we run the risk of the bells and whistles of technology driving/overshadowing the story? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:05:46Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- @SarahDayOwen Thanks! We aim to make Storify simple and fun to use so journalists can concentrate on storytelling #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:06:01Z
- malexjohnson (Alex Johnson)
- Ding ding ding. Winner. RT @DavidClinchNews: Q6 There is no algorithm for Journalism! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:06:12Z
- solete (Anne S.)
- @ryanjz Thanks for the thorough description! I forgot you were a journalism student. Maybe I’ll observe for a bit. :) #wjchat #usguys
- 2010-12-02T02:06:15Z
- EricDye (Eric M. Dye)
- Q7 Do we run the risk of the bells and whistles of technology driving/overshadowing the story? | via @wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:06:23Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- RT @DavidClinchNews: There is a big difference between aggregation and professional curation. There is no algorithm for Journalism! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:06:30Z
- lindaperrybarr (Linda Perry )
- I pbly need to see a storify demo, when i click on it on my tool bar it freaks me out. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:06:45Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Q7 Do we run the risk of the bells and whistles of technology driving/overshadowing the story? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:06:48Z
- FehmidaMalik (Fehmida Malik)
- A6 @wjchat Strong editing skills is in need here! To make the story relevant so it connects with the audience #wjchat #in
- 2010-12-02T02:06:58Z
- scottleadingham (Scott Leadingham)
- @LisaGemini @DSMacLeod Big generalization that mags are better edited and fact checked. There are lots of mags and lots of papers. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:07:00Z
- hbillings (Heather Billings)
- Figuring that out is my fav part of journ! RT @malexjohnson: Stories are unique; they’ll let you know you the best way to tell them. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:07:06Z
- chelseabot (Chelsea Stark)
- I think that people need to remember that technology are just tools; they can’t make bad reporting good and aren’t the “fix”. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:07:07Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- .@stephrguzman @ryanjz Let us not forget that plenty of today’s news on the web is a rehashing of yesterday’s news on the web. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:07:07Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- .@stephrguzman @ryanjz Let us not forget that plenty of today’s news on the web is a rehashing of yesterday’s news on the web. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:07:22Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- @girljournalist Definitely agreed! Use technology to help w/ initial filtering, then people put the final touch #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:07:27Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- There should be. I’d like to go home earlier. #kidding MT @DavidClinchNews: There is no algorithm for Journalism! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:07:29Z
- kbeninato (Karen DaltonBeninato)
- Not if it’s anchored by quality writing. Q7 Do we run the risk of bells and whistles of technology driving/overshadowing the story? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:07:30Z
- dshaw (Daniel Shaw)
- RT @burtherman: RT @DavidClinchNews: There is a big difference between aggregation and professional curation. There is no algorithm for Journalism! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:07:35Z
- gardnersmitha (Austin Gardner-Smith)
- RT @burtherman: Q6: Journalists’ fundamental mission hasn’t changed – just the tools and sources have. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:07:36Z
- drapetomaniac (Rich Vázquez)
- Q7 Absolutely. Tech often distracts any biz so news is no different As “tech” my job is to also to prevent distractions #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:07:40Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- @SaleemChat @lindaperrybarr @jrstahl Designer jeans post just got a RT from @iloveclothes LOL #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:07:48Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- RT @NicWirtz: @lindaperrybarr @verbalcupcake Surely a major part of the #wikileaks story is the bias shown by the cables? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:08:11Z
- billiegirltoo (billiegirltoo)
- no RT @webjournalist: RT @wjchat: Q7 Do we run the risk of the bells and whistles of technology driving/overshadowing the story? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:08:11Z
- EricDye (Eric M. Dye)
- A7: I would day the bells, whistles (Facebook/Twitter) & devices just gets the information delivered incredibly quicker… #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:08:13Z
- stephrguzman (Stephanie Guzman)
- @verbalcupcake journo students are being taught to summarize yesterday’s news for web page hits #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:08:22Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- @verbalcupcake Agreed! But it’s a technology issue, seems to be changing fast w/ spread of mobile phones in developing countries #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:08:25Z
- FehmidaMalik (Fehmida Malik)
- A7 @wjchat short answer, no we don’t. If audience doesn’t connect to the story, journalism is dead on water despite technology #wjchat #in
- 2010-12-02T02:08:27Z
- sveisvei (Sveinung Røsaker)
- RT @burtherman: RT @DavidClinchNews: There is a big difference between aggregation and professional curation. There is no algorithm for Journalism! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:08:29Z
- sdulai (Shaminder Dulai)
- Q7 Certainly a fear as we all fiddle w/ every shiny new toy, but the long tail of the good stuff shows us good journalism is king #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:08:32Z
- stephrguzman (Stephanie Guzman)
- RT @drapetomaniac: Q7 Absolutely. Tech often distracts any biz so news is no different As “tech” my job is to also to prevent distractions #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:08:34Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @ValerieInRke Hilarious. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:08:49Z
- Niketa (Niketa Patel)
- RT @DavidClinchNews: Q6 There is a big difference between aggregation & professional curation. There is no algorithm for Journalism! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:08:51Z
- annieshreff (annieshreffler)
- RT @kimbui: I love all the radio love in here #warmandcozy #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:09:07Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- #WJChat #Q7 Technology lets us experiment, usually cheaply.
- 2010-12-02T02:09:12Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- Totally, @scottleadingham. Plenty of papers fact check. Plenty of mags don’t. @lisagemini #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:09:33Z
- lindaperrybarr (Linda Perry )
- @bberwyn @niltiac Evaporating! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:09:38Z
- jrstahl (Jessica Stahl)
- Q7 Sometimes we tell a story a certain way just to play w/new tech, but if we don’t do that, how will we ever figure it all out #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:09:49Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- @verbalcupcake Fascinating chat with Chomsky on Tuesday, argued against idea that Middle East wanted Iran taken out. #wikileaks #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:10:05Z
- annieshreff (annieshreffler)
- Q7: #wjchat journos need to step back & see how the tech give us new chance to do the same job, but perhaps with more sources & distribution
- 2010-12-02T02:10:08Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- Q7: Yes for sure – must remember it’s all about the story. Best websites are all content with no fluff. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:10:09Z
- lindaperrybarr (Linda Perry )
- RT @wjchat Q7 Do we run the risk of the bells and whistles of technology driving/overshadowing the story? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:10:13Z
- hbillings (Heather Billings)
- Q7: tech MUST be relevant to the story! If I had a dime for every time a story had video just for the sake of having video… #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:10:14Z
- malexjohnson (Alex Johnson)
- Q7. Yes. Note appeal of Readify-like text-only services. It’s why, even with MSoft resources, many msnbc tools aren’t geewhiz-heavy. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:10:16Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- @verbalcupcake Claimed that only 10% of region thought Iran a major threat, 80% thought Israel was, 77% the US. #wikileaks #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:10:19Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- RT @wjchat: Q7 Do we run the risk of the bells and whistles of technology driving/overshadowing the story? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:10:31Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Q7 Sure, if we turn into robots and forgot what the heck we’re trying to do w/ journalism. Remember why we do this: People! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:10:32Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- @ryanjz I think curation as a storytelling tool can be powerful, incorporating more voices than just your own #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:10:34Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @wjchat todays bells and whistles mimic yesterdays bells and whistles. File it all under “tools” and go back to writing your story. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:10:37Z
- gteresa (Teresa Gorman)
- @wjchat q7 of course- but if you’re aware of it and have a good team you can check each other #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:10:42Z
- scottleadingham (Scott Leadingham)
- Q7 Will tech overshadow story? Likely same thing asked when papers introduced pictures. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:10:51Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- @verbalcupcake Contrasts somewhat with what our media portrays the situation to be. #wikileaks #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:11:00Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- Q7 @Storify gives me ideas for certain types of stories. Same with @Intersect. But usually the story informs the tools. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:11:08Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- Q7: We need to always keep the reader in mind, make sure we don’t create yet more overload. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:11:10Z
- marygazze (Mary Gazze)
- RT @wjchat: Q7 Do we run the risk of the bells and whistles of technology driving/overshadowing the story? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:11:15Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- @RobinJP Are we really stewards or is that what we’re claiming to be to maintain relevance? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:11:19Z
- RobinJP (Robin Phillips)
- Q7 absolutely tech can overshadow story. every story needs to fit the way it’s told, what tools are used. deciding that is key. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:11:20Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @burtherman I agree in the context of crowdsourcing but there aren’t many beat writers that can make a living in aggregation. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:11:20Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- RT @NicWirtz: @verbalcupcake Fascinating chat with Chomsky on Tuesday, argued against idea that Middle East wanted Iran taken out. #wikileaks #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:11:26Z
- annieshreff (annieshreffler)
- web optimization=road to writing hell RT @stephrguzman..being taught to summarize yesterday’s news for web page hits #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:11:37Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @NicWirtz Goosebumps. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:11:39Z
- lindaperrybarr (Linda Perry )
- @NicWirtz @lindaperrybarr @verbalcupcake but the bias in the cables are diplomatic takes on individual situations. #wikileaks #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:11:54Z
- chelseabot (Chelsea Stark)
- @webjournalist “bleep blorp, would you like some news?” #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:11:54Z
- bberwyn (Bob Berwyn)
- Q7 – yes, there is a risk, tech for the sake of tech … #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:11:55Z
- gteresa (Teresa Gorman)
- @wjchat make sure there is a reason you are using different tools-ask yourself why, and actually have an answer. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:11:55Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- Q7: If you have dancing Henry’s, music, popups and those annoying smily faces – you probably don’t have content. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:11:57Z
- The_Dean (Jason Dean)
- @wjchat They probably asked the same thing when the first news reel aired. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:11:57Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- @DSMacLeod Agreed — the story should come first, then think of the best way to tell it #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:11:58Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- Exactly. RT @DSMacLeod: …. But usually the story informs the tools. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:11:59Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Q7 Technology is just the latest set of tools …. that helps us with our reporting, storytelling and journalism. It’s a good thing. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:12:05Z
- malexjohnson (Alex Johnson)
- Q7. In fact, we often make conscious decisions not to use some of our whizbang tools so we can stay out of the way of the story. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:12:13Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- Q7 — Yes, absolutely. My take: it’s okay to try new technology, but you need to evaluate whether that tool will actually help you. #wjchat.
- 2010-12-02T02:12:24Z
- billiegirltoo (billiegirltoo)
- i say by any means we can get info to those interested MT @burtherman: Q7: We need to always keep the reader in mind, …. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:12:25Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @verbalcupcake web or print, the medium doesn’t define the quality of your stories. there is good and bad everywhere. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:12:26Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- You know, there are robots doin’ some stuff now. RT @chelseabot: @webjournalist “bleep blorp, would you like some news?” #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:12:28Z
- niltiac (Caitlin Fitzsimmons)
- @lindaperrybarr @bberwyn Yes but point is not re class. Poor and rich people can be educated too. Media literacy is not taught well. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:12:31Z
- marygazze (Mary Gazze)
- Q7 once people get used to the tech they won’t think of it as bells and whistles, but as another way to learn abt story #wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:12:40Z
- billiegirltoo (billiegirltoo)
- RT @webjournalist: Q7 Technology is just the latest set of tools …. that helps us with our reporting, storytelling and journalism. It’s a good thing. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:12:50Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- Q7: Tech is great and I’m a geek, too but you need to know how to tell a story first. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:12:50Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- RT @ryanjz: @verbalcupcake web or print, the medium doesnt define the quality of your stories. there is good and bad everywhere. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:13:02Z
- billiegirltoo (billiegirltoo)
- RT @burtherman: RT @ryanjz: @verbalcupcake web or print, the medium doesnt define the quality of your stories. there is good and bad everywhere. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:13:23Z
- chelseabot (Chelsea Stark)
- @wjchat you know, I think Plato had an argument that the written word would make humans dumber. It’s just evolution. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:13:23Z
- sdulai (Shaminder Dulai)
- @The_Dean @wjchat They probably asked the same thing when Org started drawing on cave walls instead of oral stories. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:13:26Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q8 Let’s talk about the physical story. How does the story structure change on the Web? Is there a narrative? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:13:26Z
- RobinJP (Robin Phillips)
- @NicWirtz I think we absolutely are stewards. And the audience, community is the owners, sources, participants. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:13:36Z
- drapetomaniac (Rich Vázquez)
- Every generation has new tech RT @webjournalist: Q7 Technology is just the latest set of tools …. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:13:39Z
- bberwyn (Bob Berwyn)
- @niltiac sorry, was referring to “middle class” of news consumers, not socio-economic #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:13:39Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @burtherman Yes; more needs to happen here, too. In some cases, people might have tech that makes participation possible, but… #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:13:41Z
- girljournalist (Staci Baird)
- Q7 You mean like creating multimedia stories that no one views? Audio/photo slideshows, don’t get me started! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:13:42Z
- niltiac (Caitlin Fitzsimmons)
- @ValerieInRke @bberwyn Scepticism is healthy but cynicism is not. Sceptics discern and analyse. Cynics disbelieve EVERYTHING. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:13:43Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- RT @DavidClinchNews: @wjchat Q6 …big difference between aggregation and professional curation. There is no algorithm for Journalism! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:13:45Z
- solete (Anne S.)
- @burtherman I made a #Storify in honor of Paul the Octopus. It was very easy to use. Keep meaning to make another storify #wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:14:11Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @burtherman …they don’t realize how their phone or computer might allow them to participate (or even why they should bother). #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:14:12Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- #WJChat #Q6 Mathematicians/computer scientists would disagree and are working on it, @DavidClinchNews. Why is news similar across outlets?
- 2010-12-02T02:14:16Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- RT @wjchat: Q8 Let’s talk about the physical story. How does the story structure change on the Web? Is there a narrative? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:14:18Z
- craftyb (Kelly Cheatle)
- RT @burtherman: RT @hbillings: Q1: A reporter presents the facts. A storyteller interprets the facts and takes the audience on a journey. #wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:14:18Z
- RobinJP (Robin Phillips)
- RT @girljournalist: Q7 You mean like creating multimedia stories that no one views? Audio/photo slideshows, don’t get me started! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:14:20Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- Q8: Pet peeve. Shorter paragraphs. My eyes are old. No more big blocks of text, please. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:14:31Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- RT @wjchat: Q8 Let’s talk about the physical story. How does the story structure change on the Web? Is there a narrative? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:14:38Z
- jweb (Joe Webster)
- RT @DavidClinchNews: There is a big difference between aggregation & professional curation. There is no algorithm for Journalism! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:14:41Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- @lindaperrybarr @verbalcupcake Think the origin of this was down to arguing over the original source material. #wikileaks #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:14:45Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- er, I mean you need to use shorter paragraphs #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:14:45Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- RT @ryanjz: @verbalcupcake web or print, the medium doesn’t define the quality of your stories. there is good and bad everywhere. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:14:48Z
- marygazze (Mary Gazze)
- @wjchat: Q8 Lets talk about the physical story. How does the story structure change on the Web? Is there a narrative? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:14:49Z
- xdamman (Xavier Damman)
- RT @DavidClinchNews: @wjchat Q6 There is a big difference between aggregation and professional curation. There is no algorithm for Journalism! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:15:09Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- @lindaperrybarr @verbalcupcake Of course the diplomatic cables are inherently biased, that’s what makes them interesting. #wikileaks #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:15:16Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @wjchat A8 that’s a head-scratcher. On the web many stories are devoid of narrative. Objectivity doesn’t have to be boring! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:15:17Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- Q8: If a story is going to be reallly long, there’s probably a better way to tell it online. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:15:40Z
- artwickc (Claudette Artwick)
- Q7 Only if you’re a technological determinist. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:15:45Z
- jrstahl (Jessica Stahl)
- Heck yes. And subheadlines if it’s long RT @kimbui: Q8: Shorter paragraphs. My eyes are old. No more big blocks of text, please. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:15:45Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- RT @wjchat: Q8 Let’s talk about the physical story. How does the story structure change on the Web? Is there a narrative? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:15:52Z
- girljournalist (Staci Baird)
- Exactly! RT @burtherman Use technology to help w/ initial filtering, then people put the final touch #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:15:58Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @ryanjz I agree. That’s why *I* didn’t say mag print seemed dated. ;-) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:15:59Z
- sdulai (Shaminder Dulai)
- @webjournalist @chelseabot The robots are already here: http://nyti.ms/2MkgGp #BaBABAAAAUUMM Be afraid. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:16:07Z
- drapetomaniac (Rich Vázquez)
- RT @DSMacLeod: Q8: If a story is going to be really long, there’s probably a better way to tell it online. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:16:23Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- Q8 — The major change is that a journalist can be juggling several different structures at one time. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:16:23Z
- marygazze (Mary Gazze)
- Q8 get thru narrative quicker on web, but use multimedia to tell it in pieces so ppl can get as much/little of story they want #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:16:30Z
- nathangibbs (Nathan Gibbs)
- Q7/Q8: If we present the story in a flexible way, users can decide how much of each part they want to take in. Structure is key. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:16:31Z
- mathesgrant (Mathes Grant LLC)
- RT @burtherman: Ready to go! RT @wjchat: @burtherman is our guest tonight as we discuss “The Future of Storytelling” in 15 minutes on #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:16:32Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- @RobinJP I agree, I’ve seen enough reports about curating to buy into it. Coffee house journalism is the most pure example imo. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:16:36Z
- bberwyn (Bob Berwyn)
- @niltiac @ValerieInRke OK, I’m part cynical, part skeptical … #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:17:04Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- #WJChat #Q8 On the Web, stories and narrative are generally chunkier and atomized. That may change with high-res displays on tablets.
- 2010-12-02T02:17:04Z
- malexjohnson (Alex Johnson)
- @jrstahl @kimbui Long paragraphs are my writing downfall. Apologies to you both. I’ll try to do better. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:17:06Z
- mathesgrant (Mathes Grant LLC)
- RT @burtherman: RT @hbillings: Q1: A reporter presents the facts. A storyteller interprets the facts and takes the audience on a journey. #wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:17:39Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @malexjohnson I will send you my eye doctor bill :) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:17:42Z
- mathesgrant (Mathes Grant LLC)
- RT @burtherman: Q4B: Great storytellers are people who notice the little things that bring something to life, great stories have great details #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:17:42Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- Q8: The Web is dynamic, doesn’t need to be linear and static like paper. We need to push the definition of a “story” #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:17:47Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Q8 Let’s talk about the physical story. How does the story structure change on the Web? Is there a narrative? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:17:48Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @SaleemChat On the Web, stores & narrative are generally chunkier and atomized.That may change with high-res displays on tablets #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:17:49Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- Q8: If it can be broken down … but don’t loose the story. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:17:51Z
- mathesgrant (Mathes Grant LLC)
- RT @burtherman: Q4B: Good storytelling now also means not thinking of a “story” as just words or images, we now have a more versatile canvas #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:17:54Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- Q8 — For Black Friday, I did real-time tweets, a blog, a short news update, a longer print story and then curated it all in @storify #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:18:00Z
- mathesgrant (Mathes Grant LLC)
- RT @burtherman: Q5: Paper won’t be around for much longer, look forward to tablets as thin as paper with infinite battery life, always connected #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:18:12Z
- mathesgrant (Mathes Grant LLC)
- RT @burtherman: Q6: Storify is about helping journalists find the best stuff on social media, give context and turn it into stories #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:18:12Z
- nathangibbs (Nathan Gibbs)
- @girljournalist maybe you haven’t seen any good ones? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:18:21Z
- jrstahl (Jessica Stahl)
- @malexjohnson HA. The first time I learned a paragraph can be only one sentence long it blew my mind! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:18:27Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- Do you see why I follow @NicWirtz? RT: “The diplomatic cables are inherently biased, that’s what makes them interesting. #wikileaks #wjchat”
- 2010-12-02T02:18:34Z
- davidburn (David Burn)
- RT @burtherman: Q8: The Web is dynamic, doesn’t need to be linear and static like paper. We need to push the definition of a “story” #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:18:38Z
- bberwyn (Bob Berwyn)
- RT @burtherman: Q8: The Web is dynamic, doesn’t need to be linear and static like paper. We need to push the definition of a “story” #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:18:39Z
- mathesgrant (Mathes Grant LLC)
- RT @burtherman: Q8: The Web is dynamic, doesn’t need to be linear and static like paper. We need to push the definition of a “story” #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:18:41Z
- hbillings (Heather Billings)
- Q8: I think there can be many narratives, presented in a way that lets the audience decide which they get (Choose-Your-Own-News? ha) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:18:47Z
- malexjohnson (Alex Johnson)
- BTW, curating *is* reporting. It’s just gathering and transmitting news from a different kind of source. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:18:49Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @malexjohnson @jrstahl @kimbui you and me both! i’m not into that whole brevity thing! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:19:02Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- Q8: The Web is two-way, we can make the reader part of the story. Not one way like a broadcast medium (print, radio, TV) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:19:12Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Q8 Yes, the shape/form has changed a little … more distribution methods means different forms and needs. That’s not a bad thing. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:19:16Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- Q8: Multi-format. Use the fact that users can play with stuff on the web. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:19:22Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- #WJChat #Q8 High-resolution displays that mimic the quality of paper may trigger a shift to long-form dynamic journalism.
- 2010-12-02T02:19:23Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- What is this a debate? //cynical or skeptical? @bberwy: @niltiac OK, Im part cynical, part skeptical … #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:19:23Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- RT @burtherman: Q8: The Web is dynamic, doesn’t need to be linear and static like paper. We need to push the definition of a “story” #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:19:33Z
- hbillings (Heather Billings)
- RT @nathangibbs: If we present the story in a flexible way, users can decide how much of each part they want[...] Structure is key. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:19:37Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- RT @burtherman: Q8: The Web is dynamic, doesnt need to be linear and static like paper. We need to push the definition of a “story” #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:19:40Z
- nathangibbs (Nathan Gibbs)
- Q8: Organize information so it’s useful. Subheads, summaries, bullet points, lists, etc. “Narrative” doesn’t have to be the goal. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:19:50Z
- billiegirltoo (billiegirltoo)
- the story structure changes as it evolves. the narrative is in the building of the story as it moves along bit by bit. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:19:52Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q8B How does real-time streams change this? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:19:54Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Q8 Also it allows for much more interactive from the reader/user … non-linear exploration and content creation. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:19:58Z
- lindaperrybarr (Linda Perry )
- Agree RT @NicWirtz Of course the diplomatic cables are inherently biased, that’s what makes them interesting. #wikileaks #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:20:00Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- RT @wjchat: Q8B How does real-time streams change this? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:20:01Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- @hbillings Agreed. A story online can and should be told a few different ways at once. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:20:03Z
- annieshreff (annieshreffler)
- Q8: part of a story’s structure on the web is that it’s dynamic…quoted, shared, posted, tweeted, and all that affects shape. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:20:05Z
- stephencearley (Steve Earley)
- Q8: How you pair text w/ multimedia makes a difference. Video is better w/ narratives than inverted pyramid, for e.g. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:20:17Z
- gteresa (Teresa Gorman)
- @wjchat q8- you have to think ahead about how you’re going to present your story, or else it can turn into an ugly thing #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:20:19Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @maiphoang I saw that, excellent use-case for @storify to promote imo. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:20:22Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- RT @wjchat: Q8B How does real-time streams change this? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:20:33Z
- stephrguzman (Stephanie Guzman)
- RT @nathangibbs: Q8: Organize information so it’s useful. Subheads, summaries, bullet points, lists, etc. “Narrative” doesn’t have to be the goal. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:20:39Z
- bberwyn (Bob Berwyn)
- @burtherman Yes! Stories can live, evolve and grow in the web. The days of a story being done with the final”.” are over. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:20:47Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- RT @stephencearley: Q8: How you pair text w/ multimedia makes a difference. Video is better w/ narratives than inverted pyramid. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:20:49Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- RT @wjchat: Q8B How does real-time streams change this? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:20:53Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Q8B Bite size and to the point. Doesn’t replace all stories or serve all needs, but certainly serves a specific purpose I need. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:21:05Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- RT @verbalcupcake: Do you see why I follow @NicWirtz? // LOL Yea. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:21:11Z
- girljournalist (Staci Baird)
- Q8 I think we should approach digital stories as living things.Some stories can/should evolve.Think about creating episodic content. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:21:12Z
- lindaperrybarr (Linda Perry )
- @kimbui @burtherman Sometimes they’re too short and just a rehash of someone else’s story. Unimaginative. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:21:35Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- A8 real-time is a challeng because it’s harder to flesh out narrative as a story unfolds vs sitting down to write a cohesive piece. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:21:48Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- #WJChat #Q8B It shouldn’t change much. People are used to streams now: 24-hour news, e-mail, etc. — real-time is just another stream
- 2010-12-02T02:21:59Z
- RobinJP (Robin Phillips)
- @bberwyn @burtherman Yes. Journalism as performance art. Live, evolve, grow, change direction. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:22:12Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- #wjchat http://bit.ly/eMXkrw superb interview with Assange, http://bit.ly/ebxh6F interview with Chomsky from Tuesday.
- 2010-12-02T02:22:14Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @lindaperrybarr I think more it’s that we need to keep in mind how text looks on a screen when we write. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:22:32Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- RT @bberwyn: @burtherman Stories can live, evolve and grow in the web. The days of a story being done with the final”.” are over. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:22:42Z
- bberwyn (Bob Berwyn)
- @ryanjz It is; it requires a different mindset going in. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:22:46Z
- stephrguzman (Stephanie Guzman)
- @bberwyn @burtherman The days of a story being done with the final”.” are over. But how does reader know to go back/follow? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:22:50Z
- malexjohnson (Alex Johnson)
- Q8. I’ve argued since 1996 that real-time nature of Web is tailor-made for folks with copy-desk skills. Real time is a deadline. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:23:23Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- @bberwyn Totally agree with you. Sometimes one form goes into another organically. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:23:32Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @malexjohnson agree, a floating deadline is *not* the same as no deadline. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:23:36Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- Q8B. Living, breathing stories are not only told by you, but by the community. That’s aggregation+real-time #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:23:49Z
- annieshreff (annieshreffler)
- Yes! Audience does too, i think! RT @LisaGemini: @annieshreff I love the interactive quality of web stories, don’t you? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:23:53Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- Q8B: It changes a lot – if you write about the event too then a reader who watched stream may see it differently and call you out. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:23:54Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- My p.m. reading. RT @NicWirtz #wjchat http://bit.ly/eMXkrw superb interview w Assange, http://bit.ly/ebxh6F interview w Chomsky from Tues.
- 2010-12-02T02:23:59Z
- sdulai (Shaminder Dulai)
- It might be interesting to take a look at how Gawker is handling the web going forward: http://bit.ly/gVoIPP quick hits & longtails #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:24:05Z
- malexjohnson (Alex Johnson)
- That’s one reason papers that dumped copy editors are in trouble. They threw out staffers who could make the transition most easily. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:24:08Z
- Amadeus3000 (Anthony Capps)
- Q8: On internet story structure, I think the nutgraph is outdated. To simplified or to complex on major issues. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:24:12Z
- jrstahl (Jessica Stahl)
- @stephrguzman That’s why I’m a big proponent of wiki-news ideas. Living pages that serve as hub for a story/topic #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:24:21Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- Love this. RT @kimbui: Q8B. Living, breathing stories are not only told by you, but by the community. That’s aggregation+real-time #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:24:37Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- #wjchat A4 If a story registers with your target audience, it’s done its job. Tech/form/style be damned.
- 2010-12-02T02:24:40Z
- nathangibbs (Nathan Gibbs)
- Q8b: Real-time web complicates the process because you need to be involved, vs only doing day after follow-up. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:24:43Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- Q8B: Hmmm… I think I was just cynical on streaming. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:24:50Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- Q8: AP experience was good training for how news works now — the story is never finished, it’s always being updated #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:24:55Z
- ivanlajara (Ivan Lajara)
- RT @stephencearley: Q8: How you pair text w/ multimedia makes a difference. Video is better w/ narratives than inverted pyramid. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:25:07Z
- bberwyn (Bob Berwyn)
- @stephrguzman Good Q, I find myself having to learn how to follow some of the new ways stories are presented. Readers have to adapt. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:25:13Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- Folks, I have to cut out early. Thank you for another great conversation. Been a day-long convo today. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:25:15Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- The best partRT @burtherman: Q8: The Web is two-way, we can make the reader part of the story. Not one way like a broadcast medium #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:25:18Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q9 Is the inverted pyramid still or more relevant? How crucial is getting the most important info up top? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:25:20Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @sdulai That’s fascinating. I can buy that. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:25:32Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- RT @malexjohnson: Thats one reason papers that dumped copy editors are in trouble. They threw out staffers who could make transition #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:25:39Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- Great point! RT @kimbui: Q8B. Living, breathing stories are not only told by you, but by the community. That’s aggregation+real-time #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:25:44Z
- mathesgrant (Mathes Grant LLC)
- RT @burtherman: Q8: The Web is two-way, we can make the reader part of the story. Not one way like a broadcast medium (print, radio, TV) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:25:52Z
- mathesgrant (Mathes Grant LLC)
- RT @burtherman: Q8: AP experience was good training for how news works now — the story is never finished, it’s always being updated #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:25:57Z
- annieshreff (annieshreffler)
- Has it been replace by the…tag?! RT @Amadeus3000: Q8: On internet story structure, I think the nutgraph is outdated. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:26:17Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- RT @malexjohnson: That’s one reason papers that dumped copy editors are in trouble. They threw out staffers who could make the transition most easily. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:26:44Z
- marygazze (Mary Gazze)
- CP too! RT @burtherman: Q8: AP experience was good training for how news works now — story is never finished, always being updated #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:26:44Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- RT @kimbui: Q8B. Living, breathing stories are not only told by you, but by the community. That’s aggregation+real-time #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:26:51Z
- RobinJP (Robin Phillips)
- @MAlexJohnson copy editors/wire service. working on the web is closer to my early days @ wire service than years on newspapers. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:26:58Z
- jrstahl (Jessica Stahl)
- @bberwyn Is it fair to say readers have to adapt (to play devil’s advocate)? My parents don’t want social stuff all over their news #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:27:00Z
- mathesgrant (Mathes Grant LLC)
- RT @kimbui: Q8B. Living, breathing stories are not only told by you, but by the community. That’s aggregation+real-time #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:27:02Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @wjchat A9 I don’t think the relevance of the pyramid has changed but i do think the base has narrowed. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:27:06Z
- scottleadingham (Scott Leadingham)
- Depends. RT @wjchat Q9 Is the inverted pyramid still or more relevant? How crucial is getting the most important info up top? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:27:12Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- RT @wjchat: Q9 Is the inverted pyramid still or more relevant? How crucial is getting the most important info up top? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:27:31Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- Q9: Inverted pyramid still important – actually more important with so much content out there and ppl scanning first few lines. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:27:36Z
- bberwyn (Bob Berwyn)
- @burtherman Great point on AP. Have to remember that story form for so long was determined by available space in print medium. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:27:45Z
- ivanlajara (Ivan Lajara)
- Q9: Inverted pyramid, 5Ws are still essential, especially for short-span media consumption #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:27:53Z
- annieshreff (annieshreffler)
- Wish AP ws required residency. I missed out! RT @burtherman: Q8: AP experience was good training — the story is never finished,#wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:28:11Z
- marygazze (Mary Gazze)
- Q9 Inverted pyramid even more important now. People don’t want to scroll and will close window if you don’t give them point, fast #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:28:18Z
- nathangibbs (Nathan Gibbs)
- Q9: Inverted pyramid concept is to deliver information quickly. Same concept applies to presentation, infographics, etc. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:28:21Z
- davidtaint (David Taintor)
- Q9 I think the shape is more an hourglass now, but story forms in general seem a bit outdated. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:28:27Z
- bberwyn (Bob Berwyn)
- RT @maiphoang: The best partRT @burtherman: Q8: The Web is two-way, we can make the reader part of the story. Not one way like a broadcast medium #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:28:31Z
- lindaperrybarr (Linda Perry )
- Also @Time @NicWirtz http://bit.ly/eQog18 Assange Interview: Full Skype Transcript/Audio posted today #cablegate #wikileaks #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:28:41Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- RT @wjchat: Q9 Is the inverted pyramid still or more relevant? How crucial is getting the most important info up top? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:28:41Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- Q9 I always thought it was interesting that the whole craft of newswriting is rooted in tricking people into reading more. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:29:10Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- Q9 Sometimes, it’s the new, breaking info, rather than the most important as a whole that should come first #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:29:15Z
- niltiac (Caitlin Fitzsimmons)
- @annieshreff @amadeus3000 Nutgraph works well for blogs etc. You can use tech to write an excerpt for front page & search engines. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:29:19Z
- mathesgrant (Mathes Grant LLC)
- #CulturePundits readers, Look up #wjchat right now for a discussion of the future of storytelling with @burtherman CEO of @Storify
- 2010-12-02T02:29:24Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- Q9: Think putting the latest, most important thing up top matters. Nut graf can be much more than it has been #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:29:34Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- RT @DSMacLeod: Q9 I always thought it was interesting whole craft of newswriting is rooted in tricking people into reading more. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:29:49Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- #WJChat #Q9 Inverted pyramid is relevant in certain contexts, mobile in particular.
- 2010-12-02T02:29:53Z
- stephrguzman (Stephanie Guzman)
- RT @burtherman: Q8: AP experience was good training for how news works now — the story is never finished, it’s always being updated #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:29:58Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- RT @ValerieInRke: Q9: Inverted pyramid still important – more important with so much content and ppl scanning first few lines. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:30:05Z
- bberwyn (Bob Berwyn)
- RT @mathesgrant: #CulturePundits readers, Look up #wjchat right now for a discussion of the future of storytelling with @burtherman CEO of @Storify
- 2010-12-02T02:30:09Z
- malexjohnson (Alex Johnson)
- @RobinJP Me too — I did both. But all newspapers have copy editors to unleash; not all have wire vets. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:30:51Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- This RT @burtherman: Q9: Think putting the latest, most important thing up top matters. Nut graf can be much more than it has been #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:31:02Z
- hbillings (Heather Billings)
- Q9: Isn’t Twitter basically the modern form of the inverted pyramid? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:31:10Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- Q9: I think story structure and order is a good thing, we can’t just all swim in the chaotic real-time stream. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:31:15Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- #WJChat #Q9 News audiences are trained to read inverted pyramid. Some expect it.
- 2010-12-02T02:31:18Z
- annieshreff (annieshreffler)
- Q9: #wjchat pyramid is a habit…and I always read the last pages of a new book first too. But the why has to be on top or …next link.
- 2010-12-02T02:31:22Z
- bberwyn (Bob Berwyn)
- @jrstahl Understand. They don’t “have” to, but they will. For some time yet, there will be old-school media available. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:31:28Z
- RobinJP (Robin Phillips)
- RT @DSMacLeod Q9 always thought it was interesting that whole craft of newswriting is rooted in tricking people into reading more. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:31:55Z
- writegirl1215 (Bethany Chambers)
- RT @hbillings: Q9: Isn’t Twitter basically the modern form of the inverted pyramid? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:32:08Z
- nathangibbs (Nathan Gibbs)
- Tweets are nuts :) RT @hbillings: Q9: Isnt Twitter basically the modern form of the inverted pyramid? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:32:37Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- [Hypercompressed, but yes.] RT @hbillings: Q9: Isn’t Twitter basically the modern form of the inverted pyramid? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:32:46Z
- marygazze (Mary Gazze)
- RT @SaleemChat: #WJChat #Q9 News audiences are trained to read inverted pyramid. Some expect it. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:32:50Z
- writegirl1215 (Bethany Chambers)
- Q9: inverted pyramid is more important now than ever before. Attention spans are only getting shorter. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:32:59Z
- drapetomaniac (Rich Vázquez)
- @RobinJP “tricking people into reading more.” is at the root of all storytelling #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:33:03Z
- remaines (Rebecca Maines)
- RT @girljournalist: Q6: Well, I still believe that a human touch is needed. All that info needs an editor/curator. Am I wrong? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:33:08Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- I know that @webjournalist had to take off but I have a question if you guys are willing to stick it out a min? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:33:21Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- Q9: I look at it as more of headline writing, with Twitter. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:33:24Z
- RobinJP (Robin Phillips)
- @MAlexJohnson agree. wire editors/copy editors are golden. where were you? I was UPI … and that dates me, huh? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:33:30Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Q10 What defines a story in the future? One photo? Elaborate package? Six paragraphs of text? Tweet? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:33:38Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- @lindaperrybarr Appreciate that link, can’t wait for the BoA dump :) #cablegate #wikileaks #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:33:40Z
- marygazze (Mary Gazze)
- @SaleemChat Esp when ppl become impatient due to Google’s quickness in finding source that will give me news better/faster #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:33:59Z
- webjournalist (Robert Hernandez)
- @ryanjz Lucky for the #wjchat community, it is run by more than I … stick around for a few more Qs. I have to split.
- 2010-12-02T02:34:06Z
- marygazze (Mary Gazze)
- @RobinJP UPI still exists, doesn’t it? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:34:18Z
- annieshreff (annieshreffler)
- @hbillings #wjchat I think of Twitter more like the art of writing a good headline..+ some
- 2010-12-02T02:34:20Z
- marygazze (Mary Gazze)
- RT @wjchat: Q10 What defines a story in the future? One photo? Elaborate package? Six paragraphs of text? Tweet? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:34:52Z
- hilljohng (John Hill)
- RT @SaleemChat: #WJChat #Q9 Inverted pyramid is relevant in certain contexts, mobile in particular.
- 2010-12-02T02:35:00Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- Q10 One story, multiple formats. The big story is turned into all of the above. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:35:12Z
- Asher_Wolf (Asher Wolf)
- RT @NicWirtz: #wjchat http://bit.ly/eMXkrw superb interview with Assange, http://bit.ly/ebxh6F interview with Chomsky from Tuesday.
- 2010-12-02T02:35:16Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- RT @wjchat: Q10 What defines a story in the future? One photo? Elaborate package? Six paragraphs of text? Tweet? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:35:24Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- @marygazze Yes, people generally want something different from breaking/daily news than weekend or long-form. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:35:27Z
- scottleadingham (Scott Leadingham)
- All. It’s relative. RT @wjchat Q10 What defines a story in the future? One photo? Elaborate package? Six paragraphs of text? Tweet? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:35:32Z
- marygazze (Mary Gazze)
- Q10 story of future gives me everything I need in a few sentences and video/audio/photo.Option to click for a longer writethru #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:35:37Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- RT @wjchat: Q10 What defines a story in the future? One photo? Elaborate package? Six paragraphs of text? Tweet? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:35:40Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- Q10: I’m hoping it’s interpretive dance. #Whoswithme #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:35:41Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- A10 a story can live in any medium, you just need a journo with experience within that medium to make it coherent. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:35:45Z
- sdulai (Shaminder Dulai)
- Q10 It’s whatever the story dictates it needs, & I’ll refer you to Hemingway’s shortest story: “For sale: Baby shoes. Never worn.” #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:35:49Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- Q10: I think all of those (and maybe something new) will define a story in future.Nobody knew Twitter would play this role 5 yrs ago #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:35:56Z
- nathangibbs (Nathan Gibbs)
- Q10: The story of the future becomes “coverage,” less focused on one piece and more about the bigger picture. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:36:01Z
- stephencearley (Steve Earley)
- Q9: People basically get the top of the pyramid from the real-time stream. If they came to you for more, you owe them more, up top. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:36:13Z
- gteresa (Teresa Gorman)
- @wjchat q10 nothing defines a story. Never limit yourself-the whole point of #wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:36:16Z
- RobinJP (Robin Phillips)
- @marygazze yeah. it does… but it’s pretty thin. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:36:40Z
- lindaperrybarr (Linda Perry )
- @NicWirtz @lindaperrybarr I can certainly wait. have only injested a day of leaks so far:( #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:36:55Z
- stephrguzman (Stephanie Guzman)
- Q10 Maybe I’m a victim of current formats but a story should always have one visual #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:37:03Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- RT @sdulai: Q10 It’s whatever the story dictates it needs, & I’ll refer you to Hemingway’s shortest story: “For sale: Baby shoes. Never worn.” #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:37:04Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- Q10: What’s a story? Anything that engages and enlightens, carries an audience on a journey. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:37:24Z
- malexjohnson (Alex Johnson)
- Knight-Ridder/Tribune D.C. in the early ’90s. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:37:29Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- #WJChat #Q10 What defines a story in the future (as now, but more so) is context: Time, place, audience, community… “Story” is multifacted.
- 2010-12-02T02:37:42Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- RT @Martha_Kang: Missing #wjchat today due to #beingaveryslowtyper :(
- 2010-12-02T02:37:43Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- @sdulai Hey, that’s even shorter than 140 characters! #tweetsbeforeTwitter #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:37:47Z
- malexjohnson (Alex Johnson)
- ‘Night all. Something’s come up I have to deal with … #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:37:52Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- RT @burtherman: Q10: What’s a story? Anything that engages and enlightens, carries an audience on a journey. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:38:01Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- @lindaperrybarr Slowcoach :) Guardian should be releasing day four soon enough. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:38:09Z
- bberwyn (Bob Berwyn)
- Q10 I don’t think the story of the future has been defined, and we shouldn’t try to put it in a box. Let it develop organically. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:38:16Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- RT @sdulai: Q10 It’s whatever the story dictates it needs, & I’ll refer you to Hemingway’s shortest story: “For sale: Baby shoes. Never worn.” #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:38:28Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- RT @gteresa: @wjchat q10 nothing defines a story. Never limit yourself-the whole point of #wjchat #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:38:31Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- RT @burtherman: Q10: What’s a story? Anything that engages and enlightens, carries an audience on a journey. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:38:35Z
- RobinJP (Robin Phillips)
- @verbalcupcake yes. performance art. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:38:42Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- RT @bberwyn: Q10 I don’t think the story of the future has been defined, and we shouldn’t try to put it in a box. Let it develop organically. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:38:52Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @MAlexJohnson Good night, Alex! I enjoyed your contributions especially tonight. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:39:12Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- Q10: Definitely a photo with concise details in first short paragraph followed by a well developed story. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:39:15Z
- girljournalist (Staci Baird)
- Gotta go be social, I’m at my husband’s office holiday party Tweeting! Gonna get in trouble. Great #wjchat! Have a good night all.
- 2010-12-02T02:39:16Z
- RobinJP (Robin Phillips)
- @MAlexJohnson see ya. good luck with that news stuff… #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:39:30Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- Q10 — A story, in whatever medium or form, will make the reader feel they are better for taking the time to engage with it. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:39:40Z
- mathesgrant (Mathes Grant LLC)
- RT @burtherman: Q10: What’s a story? Anything that engages and enlightens, carries an audience on a journey. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:39:50Z
- ivanlajara (Ivan Lajara)
- Q10: What defines a story? Presentation can vary as you move down/or up the platforms. All forms, tweets, pix, long-form, are valid #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:40:15Z
- Amadeus3000 (Anthony Capps)
- @niltiac @annieshreff I find nut graph is often too simplified. Can be insulting to those who are informed. 1 size doesn’t fit all #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:40:30Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- RT @maiphoang: Q10 — A story, in whatever medium or form, will make the reader feel they are better for taking the time to engage with it. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:40:30Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- Wikileaks will inevitably fall at some point in the future. Will investigative journalism be enough to pick up that slack? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:40:46Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @girljournalist haha, that’s dedication! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:41:05Z
- stephrguzman (Stephanie Guzman)
- @wjchat Thanks for the great convo peeps. This was my first #wjchat! Sad especially b/c @webjournalist is my prof.! Night.
- 2010-12-02T02:41:13Z
- jweb (Joe Webster)
- RT @annieshreff: Wish AP ws required residency. I missed out! RT @burtherman: Q8: AP experience was good training — the story is never finished,#wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:41:23Z
- hbillings (Heather Billings)
- Q10: I think audience engagement will be the driving factor of what makes a story — and should drive your choice of multimedia, too. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:41:30Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Last bonus Q from @ClaudiaKoerner: what can we do to become better storytellers? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:42:11Z
- ivanlajara (Ivan Lajara)
- Engage your audience! RT @wjchat: Last bonus Q from @ClaudiaKoerner: what can we do to become better storytellers? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:42:12Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- RT @wjchat: Last bonus Q from @ClaudiaKoerner: what can we do to become better storytellers? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:42:28Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @stephrguzman Thanks for joining!! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:42:29Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- RT @wjchat: Last bonus Q from @ClaudiaKoerner: what can we do to become better storytellers? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:42:46Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- @ryanjz Oversimplify to avoid having to pay/give credit for good investigative journalism. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:42:56Z
- mathesgrant (Mathes Grant LLC)
- Q10: Story @burtherman: – Anything that engages & enlightens, carries an audience on a journey. #wjchat @SFMOMA @TheMattHarris @The_Rumpus
- 2010-12-02T02:42:56Z
- mathesgrant (Mathes Grant LLC)
- Q10: Story @burtherman: – Anything that engages & enlightens, carries an audience on a journey. #wjchat @SFMOMA @TheMattHarris @The_Rumpus
- 2010-12-02T02:43:07Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- The best way to become a better story teller is to read. A lot. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:43:29Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- RT @wjchat: Last bonus Q from @ClaudiaKoerner: what can we do to become better storytellers? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:43:35Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- Bonus: Talk to your audience. Learn what stories they want. Then, tell them. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:43:47Z
- writegirl1215 (Bethany Chambers)
- Bonus Q: Write well. No matter how much it changes, the best journalism begins with solid writing. Goes for vids, slideshows, etc. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:43:48Z
- kbeninato (Karen DaltonBeninato)
- Never stop listening. RT @wjchat Last bonus Q from @ClaudiaKoerner: what can we do to become better storytellers? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:44:00Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- #WJChat #Q11 To become a better storyteller, start with basics: Master them. Build on this with new skills, new techniques.
- 2010-12-02T02:44:01Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- Bonus question — To become a better storyteller, keep learning from others and don’t be afraid to try new things. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:44:03Z
- annieshreff (annieshreffler)
- Q10 #wjchat be mindful, even when your teched-out…be mindful and you’ll craft good stories. G’night & thanks!
- 2010-12-02T02:44:13Z
- SarahDayOwen (Sarah Day Owen)
- Even more: listen. RT @ryanjz: The best way to become a better story teller is to read. A lot. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:44:15Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- Tried and true advice. RT @ryanjz: The best way to become a better story teller is to read. A lot. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:44:17Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- RT @kbeninato: Never stop listening. RT @wjchat Last bonus Q from @ClaudiaKoerner: what can we do to become better storytellers? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:44:18Z
- danielday (Dan Day)
- RT @ryanjz: The best way to become a better story teller is to read. A lot. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:44:18Z
- Jett4630 (Jett Espinol)
- Q10 #wjchat be mindful, even when your teched-out…be mindful and you’ll craft good stories. G’night & thanks!
- 2010-12-02T02:44:25Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @ryanjz I think wikileaks is just the cool kid right now. There’s other investigative journalism out there without the hubub #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:44:26Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- RT @writegirl1215: Bonus Q: Write well. No matter how much it changes, the best journalism begins with solid writing. Goes for vids, slideshows, etc. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:44:28Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- Yes. This. RT @kimbui: Bonus: Talk to your audience. Learn what stories they want. Then, tell them. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:44:33Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- Bonus Q: How to be a better storyteller? Be open and observant, let the story guide you #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:44:34Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- RT @kimbui: Bonus: Talk to your audience. Learn what stories they want. Then, tell them. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:44:46Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- RT @burtherman: Bonus Q: How to be a better storyteller? Be open and observant, let the story guide you #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:45:08Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- Read, write, speak and listen? That’s the beginnings of a great storytelling rap. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:45:26Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- #WJChat #Q11 Learn from other disciplines. Read — everything. Lose the ego. Learn to edit. Look, listen, learn.
- 2010-12-02T02:45:31Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- That’s a wrap! Thanks for joining #wjchat tonight — and a big thanks to Burt Herman / @burtherman for guest hosting! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:45:37Z
- RobinJP (Robin Phillips)
- Bonus Q: How to be a better storyteller? =>=> practice, practice, practice. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:45:43Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- RT @kimbui: Bonus: Talk to your audience. Learn what stories they want. Then, tell them. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:45:46Z
- stephencearley (Steve Earley)
- Q10: Tomorrow’s stories are about utility. They should help us make decisions and give us the tools to carry them out. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:45:51Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- RT @maiphoang: RT @burtherman: Bonus Q: How to be a better storyteller? Be open and observant, let the story guide you #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:46:05Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @kimbui wikileaks is more than the cool kid, they are the go-to. will journalists position themselves as the next go-to? #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:46:12Z
- burtherman (Burt Herman)
- Thanks so much to #wjchat for having me! And for everyone’s amazing responses, awesome that we had such an interactive dialogue #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:46:23Z
- mathesgrant (Mathes Grant LLC)
- @burtherman #wjchat – “carries audience on a journey” pls see http://j.mp/gLG0ny #JosephCambell #myth #Storytelling #Storify #CulturePundits
- 2010-12-02T02:46:24Z
- nicolesantacruz (Nicole Santa Cruz )
- RT @ryanjz: The best way to become a better story teller is to read. A lot. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:46:29Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- If you need a smart, savvvy, skilled and digital-savvy young journalist, hire @MaryGazze ! #WJChat
- 2010-12-02T02:46:30Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @kimbui The perfect partner to @RobinJP’s and my interpretive dance! #futureofnews #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:46:33Z
- mathesgrant (Mathes Grant LLC)
- RT @burtherman: Bonus Q: How to be a better storyteller? Be open and observant, let the story guide you #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:46:42Z
- gteresa (Teresa Gorman)
- @wjchat read, listen and never stop learning. I get great ideas from community events or riding the bus #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:46:46Z
- ckanal (Craig Kanalley)
- RT @burtherman: How to be a better storyteller? Be open and observant, let the story guide you #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:46:47Z
- mathesgrant (Mathes Grant LLC)
- RT @burtherman: Thanks so much to #wjchat for having me! And for everyone’s amazing responses, awesome that we had such an interactive dialogue #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:46:48Z
- wjchat (wjchat)
- Next week we are honored to have pioneer Web journo @jimbradysp as our guest host! You’ll want to be here! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:46:52Z
- beacongal (Monica Roman Gagnier)
- RT @RobinJP Bonus Q: How to be a better storyteller? practice, practice, practice. #wjchat (Listen, listen, listen)
- 2010-12-02T02:47:05Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @ryanjz Well, look at what ProPublica and LAT Data desk are doing. that’s investigative without wiileaks. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:47:10Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- #wjchat A6 Being the curator of said tools. Tools can’t think for themselves, they need human input.
- 2010-12-02T02:47:16Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- I’m @SaleemKhan — this is my chat-only account. You can connect with me at the other one. #WJChat
- 2010-12-02T02:47:29Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- RT @wjchat: Next week we are honored to have pioneer Web journo @jimbradysp as our guest host! You’ll want to be here! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:47:47Z
- chelseabot (Chelsea Stark)
- Awesome!! RT @wjchat: Next week we are honored to have pioneer Web journo @jimbradysp as our guest host! You’ll want to be here! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:47:49Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @burtherman Thanks to you for hosting, Burt! And as always, #wjchat peeps bring it. G’night, y’all.
- 2010-12-02T02:47:57Z
- ckanal (Craig Kanalley)
- @wjchat Wow. @jimbradysp, that will be great. Will be there for sure. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:48:01Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- Thanks everybody! I’m out for this week. Join us on Thursday, Jan. 6 at 7 p.m. Central Time for start of weekly #spjchat Follow us! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:48:17Z
- naudsie (Naudia J)
- Weak! I just missed the best #wjchat. All the sadness in the world is mine.
- 2010-12-02T02:48:24Z
- lindaperrybarr (Linda Perry )
- #10 Don’t go out and report w/ preconceived notions of what ur going to find. Be open & catch the unexpected voice, scene, whatever #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:48:36Z
- gteresa (Teresa Gorman)
- @wjchat thanks all for your insight- chatting w/ you all also makes me a better storyteller ;) night! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:48:40Z
- maiphoang (Mai Hoang)
- Great #wjchat. A great reminder that stories can come in many packages!
- 2010-12-02T02:48:46Z
- greglinch (Greg Linch)
- Indeed. Ditto. RT @ckanal: @wjchat Wow. @jimbradysp, that will be great. Will be there for sure. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:48:55Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- @gteresa That’s the second time I’ve heard someone say they get stories from the bus. I need to ride. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:49:04Z
- hbillings (Heather Billings)
- Like the J-version of Jiminiy Cricket RT @burtherman: How to be a better storyteller? Be open and observant, let the story guide you #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:49:29Z
- stephencearley (Steve Earley)
- RT @kimbui Read, write, speak and listen? That’s the beginnings of a great storytelling rap. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:49:31Z
- spjchat (Mike Reilley)
- RT @wjchat: Next week we are honored to have pioneer Web journo @jimbradysp as our guest host! Youll want to be here! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:49:31Z
- ryanjz (Ryan Zeigler)
- @kimbui i’m not saying investigative journalism doesn’t exist, it just doesn’t expose data on the scale of wikileaks. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:49:36Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @kimbui @gteresa Check out @munidiaries… #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:49:48Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- @lindaperrybarr “catch the unexpected ” SO true – best stories came unexpected by hanging around longer then anyone else. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:49:48Z
- laurenmichell (Lauren M. Rabaino)
- RT @hbillings: Like the J-version of Jiminiy Cricket RT @burtherman: How to be a better storyteller? Be open and observant, let the story guide you #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:50:09Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- RT @maiphoang: Great #wjchat. A great reminder that stories can come in many packages! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:50:55Z
- DSMacLeod (D.S. MacLeod)
- Nice talking with ya’ll. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:51:10Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- @ryanjz @kimbui Data is useless without structure. Layers of structure tur data into journalism. Wikileaks is a conduit. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:51:17Z
- kimbui (P. Kim Bui)
- Thanks, everyone for joining! And especially to @burtherman for being our gracious host. Transcript up soon! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:51:27Z
- RobinJP (Robin Phillips)
- Yet another great #wjchat .. episode 43.Thanks to @burtherman looking forward to @jimbradysp as guest host next week. Thanks everybody.
- 2010-12-02T02:51:41Z
- lindaperrybarr (Linda Perry )
- Thanks everyone. I unfollowed many people. If i unfollowed u by mistake pls lemme now. ‘Night:) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:52:17Z
- RosaPush_er (Rosa Pushér)
- RT @ckanal: RT @burtherman: How to be a better storyteller? Be open and observant, let the story guide you #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:52:36Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- Bonus Q: Agree w/open and observent – just relax and let the emotion of the story consume you. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:54:03Z
- tatn (Tuyet A. N. T.)
- RT @wjchat: Next week we are honored to have pioneer Web journo @jimbradysp as our guest host! You’ll want to be here! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:54:12Z
- davidtaint (David Taintor)
- RT @ckanal: RT @burtherman: How to be a better storyteller? Be open and observant, let the story guide you #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:54:59Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- #wjchat A7 Absolutely! People fall in love with the tools, not the process.
- 2010-12-02T02:55:20Z
- jrstahl (Jessica Stahl)
- As usual, coming away from #wjchat inspired, excited and overwhelmed all at once. That’s a good thing.
- 2010-12-02T02:55:48Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- #wjchat A7 The drive to automate everything is scary, humans still need the human touch to humanise stories.
- 2010-12-02T02:56:36Z
- nathangibbs (Nathan Gibbs)
- RT @burtherman: Bonus Q: How to be a better storyteller? Be open and observant, let the story guide you #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:57:17Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- Great chatting @bberwyn @niltiac @verbalcupcake @SaleemChat @ryanjz @lindaperrybarr @jrstahl @hilljohng @SDulai #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T02:57:34Z
- SaleemChat (Saleem Khan)
- @kimbui @ryanjz Long had tools to parse structured data. Creating structure from disorder is the test. Data lost to ether is tough. #WJChat
- 2010-12-02T02:58:44Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- @burtherman Thanks to a great host tonight. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T03:02:14Z
- ValerieInRke (Valerie Garner)
- @kimbui Good night lady with the best profile pic ever! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T03:03:30Z
- girljournalist (Staci Baird)
- @kimbui I’m a #wjchat addict.
- 2010-12-02T03:04:23Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- #wjchat It’s arguable but you have to tell the same story with less time/space/attention span on the web.
- 2010-12-02T03:05:03Z
- kbeninato (Karen DaltonBeninato)
- Thanks Kim! RT @kimbui Thanks, everyone for joining! And especially to @burtherman for being our gracious host. Transcript up soon! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T03:06:35Z
- hbillings (Heather Billings)
- @girljournalist @kimbui We need a 12-step #wjchat program.
- 2010-12-02T03:09:17Z
- verbalcupcake (Sarah Fidelibus)
- @hbillings @girljournalist @kimbui Are we sure this wasn’t a comment on the party? ;-) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T03:12:03Z
- ap_sims (Andrew Sims )
- bummed I missed the #wjchat tonight …. I’ll snoop down through the postings… Looks like it was a solid discussion, as usual!
- 2010-12-02T03:16:51Z
- andybechtel (Andy Bechtel)
- RT @malexjohnson: Q8. I’ve argued since 1996 that real-time nature of Web is tailor-made for folks with copy-desk skills. Real time is a deadline. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T03:18:12Z
- WriterChickNJ (Kathryn Quigley)
- RT @spjchat: Q1. To be a great storyteller, you must first be a good reporter. Reporting drives great writing and multimedia storytelling #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T03:22:41Z
- jimbradysp (Jim Brady)
- Thanks, looking forward to it. RT @wjchat: Next week we are honored to have pioneer Web journo @jimbradysp as our guest host! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T03:23:12Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- #wjchat A8b Aren’t real-time streams the game changer that 24 hour rolling news cycles were for the 80s?
- 2010-12-02T03:23:45Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- #wjchat 8b People got used to constant news cycles, now they’re going to get used to responding immediately.
- 2010-12-02T03:23:57Z
- jenconnic (Jen Connic)
- RT @jimbradysp: Thanks, looking forward to it. RT @wjchat: Next week we are honored to have pioneer Web journo @jimbradysp as our guest host! #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T03:25:04Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- @verbalcupcake You might like to know Bank of America shares fell 3% on rumours they’re the next data dump. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T03:25:32Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- @verbalcupcake http://ind.pn/ezrpdl One more for your pm reading list. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T03:26:33Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- #wjchat A9 Great ? More important, anything above fold is much more likely to be read than below.
- 2010-12-02T03:27:16Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- RT @ryanjz: A9 I don’t think the relevance of the pyramid has changed but i do think the base has narrowed. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T03:27:44Z
- robpriewe (Rob Priewe)
- RT @ryanjz: The best way to become a better story teller is to read. A lot. #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T03:31:58Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- #wjchat A10 Turn of century online journalism we had a rule of three paragraphs at least. One photo is more a Posterous thing.
- 2010-12-02T03:33:37Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- RT @verbalcupcake: Q10: I’m hoping it’s interpretive dance. #Whoswithme #wjchat Da da, da da, da da da da. Tango News at 8!
- 2010-12-02T03:37:16Z
- lexalexander (Lex Alexander)
- Bingo. RT @MAlexJohnson I’ve argued since 1996 that real-time nature of Web is tailor-made for folks with copy-desk skills.(more) #wjchat
- 2010-12-02T03:38:43Z
- lexalexander (Lex Alexander)
- RT @MAlexJohnson That’s 1 reason papers that dumped copy editors are in trouble. They threw out staffers who could transition easily.#wjchat
- 2010-12-02T03:39:06Z
- NicWirtz (Nic Wirtz)
- #wjchat Bonus A: Practice on social media, it really helps to clarify your message.